I was thinking more of replacing either zulaport or blood artist with corpse knight. I’m back and forth with it in my abzan wedge list. Since you mentioned Kenrith’s Transformation Ill add that Darksteel Mutation offers the same effect with slightly better power toughness.

Nah my meta is really heavy on the aggro so life does matter. What makes Kenrith's Transformation into the cut is that it replaces itself. Card draw is very important. Darksteel Mutation is aight but not good enough only reason I'm testing out this one is really because it draws and punishes commanders.

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I replaced Zulaport for Corpse Knight in my Ghave deck, but that’s because it allows my non-sacrificing infinite tokens combos to finish where the other two don’t. It just extends my reach just a little bit. If you don’t have a gap in your combos like I did where Zulaport doesn’t go off, then I wouldn’t bother with replacing it.

Mhm, the drain is important whereas the ETB on creatures doesn't really matter as much for the meta I am in. As of currently I don't see the point in having it atm, if anything I would trade Zulaport as what you did but I'm quite fine having it without it. I always have Riftsweeper and Pull from Eternity as a backup scenario. However the plus isde is having a 2/2 for Tymna but that isn't often but may count one day.

First of all I would like to congratulate you for the primer, it gives life to a long forgotten deck that I tried to tune. I believe the next step is a discord server regarding this deck. I have searched a lot for it and it does not exist for teneb, although I believe it is vital to exchange information and experiences between the users of it. Please consider my suggestion and I would be happy to provide any help needed.

Yooo Amorph0us! Thank you for that! This has been my bae deck since I have first started EDH back in the heyday! If ya looking for a discord I would be happy to make one and get people into it. Although I am not sure of the popularity of it! I pilot Teneb for the past 5-6 years and been still tuning it with every set hah!

Popularity is not a problem, but I think it will draw some attention. Most of people nowadays already use discord for a lot of reasons so why not step in. Update your primer with the discord link when it is ready! Cheers!

Would you consider Ohran Frostfang for this list? Similar to Toski and Tymna draw. I'm assuming the CMC might be too high though. Id love to hear your thoughts regardless.

mrdoctorman, it's as exactly as you stated. Ohran Frostfang is too high on the CMC curve slot. The only reason that Toski, Bearer of Secrets is in is for a few reasons, it hits the Birthing Pod 4 CMC slot as the only other option is Academy Rector in addition it also helps for card advantage, and also chains into the Karmic/Reveillark combo if needed. I personally like Ohran Frostfang but when going into the fast combo route it falls a bit behind.

Thanks for your input!

Hello! I was using a teneb kind of deck but not in this way and with this primer, after building the majority of this deck it brought fresh air and victories!

I am using discord for servers about my favorite decks in order to discuss new cards, the local metas and more in depth discussion. I saw there was some interest in the previous comments, is the server made? If not I have experience in setting it up, I can definitely help! But of course the presence of the creator of the deck is mandatory to keep it moving. I imagine the server's use to support the primer on tapped out and not the opposite so I don't find any reason not to create it!

Yo Valadorn! I would not be opposed to be having a discord set up to review the bae deck or have more in depth discussion, I'm actually all for that. There is a lot of hidden tricks and sleeves that I had playing this deck that I haven't written in the primer. Feel free to create and tag me on discord when one is made!

Alright, the server is setup. The permalink for invite is this https://discord.gg/kZVCH83Jdy Get in to review and invite some friends. Later I will post it in reddit to get ppl. I have a feeling this will go well if we take care of it.

Sounds good, I have already joined in, send a ping and I'll answer it when I am available!

Typo.

This way is almost exactly the same way as the Saffi Eriksdotter combo, only difference is your exiling Reveillark. Have Reveillark on the battlefield and Karmic Guide in the graveyard, when Fiend Hunter ETB exile Reveillark which will trigger its LTB trigger. In response to Fiend Hunter's ETB trigger, sacrifice Fiend Hunter which will bring back Reveillark and the LTB trigger on the stack will target Fiend Hunter and Karmic Guide.

The exile etb trigger from hunter must resolve, or you permanently exile the reviellark, which is not what you want.

um... should have this combo as the wincon in your description. I run a very similar karador deck. https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/karador-attrition-hulk/

hulk die trigger > bring out seer/feeder and karmic guide > guide ETB bring back hulk > sac hulk and search up saffi, blood artist. sac saffi > target karmic guide > ping with blood artist sac guide (another blood artist ping) > guide comes back because saffi, use guides ETB to bring back saffi.

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