The Best Control of Tarkir

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DTK UPDATES —March 6, 2015

Dragons of Tarkir is bringing us many new toys, notably a new command cycle (with two on-colour and both playable!). They're being added here, and with the new set comes a shift towards a more base, as opposed to .

TheHroth, sorry, that's what I meant. I snagged a Hydra Broodmaster.

February 8, 2015 1:38 p.m.

TheHroth says... #2

@KaladinStormblessed

Ahh ok!

The best thing I ever did with Ashiok was against a G/R monster deck.

Their opening hand contained 2 land and Sylvan Caryatid, and beaters. Pretty good, except I hit Ashiok on T3, and he never drew another land. Eventually I nabbed 2 Sylvan Caryatid and a Polukranos, World Eater. With the mana that Caryatid could produce, I managed to monstrous Poly-K for 13 and wipe away the creatures my opponent had managed to play.

That was a good game. I had cast Sphinx's Revelation for 20 something the turn before.

February 8, 2015 2:01 p.m.

That sounds pretty awesome. Ashiok is a great planeswalker.

February 8, 2015 5:44 p.m.

rochdalekilla9 says... #4

Have you used this in a tournament yet? If so, could you please provide your overall success? I am running a pure U/B control deck and was contemplating putting in some white. I love my deck right now but feel it could have more. Thanks and +1!

February 11, 2015 3:01 p.m.

rochdalekilla9 says... #5

Also, Murderous Cut could be a good card in here!

February 11, 2015 3:02 p.m.

I like this build quite a bit better than most I've seen. I want to run esper, just don't like the way my build was playing. I never drew Jace's Ingenuity when I needed it and Divination really hurts the tempo of the deck.

How is Jace, the Living Guildpact working out for you? I'm not sure if I like him personally yet or not. If his +1 was something like a Sleight of Hand, I would like him better. His ult is insane though. Thinking of running him here Ruthless Control of the Black Fang or here Kolaghan, Agent of the Dark Side, just not sure what to take out yet, as they are already starving for space.

February 11, 2015 7:06 p.m.

TheHroth says... #7

@rochdalekilla9

Of the latest version, I have no results to show because I missed FNM last week, but previous versions have shown to perform well irl as well as on Cockatrice.

Murderous Cut is good, but not worth running over any other removal spell I already have here. Bile Blight and Hero's Downfall are just better, and I dont want to cut any other spells to fit it in.

Thanks for the +1!

@Chainer_the_Dementia_Master

Divination really screws up T3 plays. You want to be able to play Hero's Downfall almost every game on T3, and ideally either Hero's Downfall or Dissolve. A sorcery speed draw spell is definitely not high on my list of T3 plays.

If there were an efficient 4cmc sweeper things would be much different. I'd love T3 Divination into T4 Wrath of God.

Jace, the Living Guildpact has proven to be quite an awesome card whenever I draw him. Whether as a T4 tempo kill with his -3, or filtering your draws every turn, he is useful for all his abilities at almost any point in the game.

Filling up the graveyard a little bit every turn with his +1 also really helps cast Dig Through Time much more easily, and that is never a bad thing.

February 12, 2015 12:15 a.m.

TheHroth that's how I feel about Divination right now. With the lack of a turn 4 sweeper, it gets significantly worse. I just don't like Jace's Ingenuity any better because I usually draw it when I need that removal spell instead and just end up dead the next turn. Esper just doesn't seem to be working too well for me since Khans came out, but I'm giving it one more try on friday. I've been splashing the other colors instead of white for things like Sultai Charm and Steam Augury which seem to be working better, just wish there were something like Jace's Ingenuity but a little cheaper with slightly less of an effect. Been thinking about Weave Fate, but don't think it's worth 4 mana.

I want to run Jace, the Living Guildpact, just don't know what to cut for him. My esper build(Relinquish all your soul to me) is pretty control heavy with fewer win cons, so it's hard to take things out without just rebuilding the deck at the moment. More or less a messy work in progress that I can't seem to strike a balance with.

February 12, 2015 12:40 a.m.

tclaw12 says... #9

What do you think about replacing Jace, the Living Guildpact with Sorin, Solemn Visitor? Sorin's +1 is great, especially with Elspeth, Sun's Champion tokens.

February 17, 2015 midnight

TheHroth says... #10

I used to play Sorin, Solemn Visitor but he's just not good enough compared to what I could be and am playing instead of him.

February 17, 2015 5:29 p.m.

What do you do if someone drops a Jeskai Ascendancy or Whip of Erebos and you can't counter it?

February 17, 2015 8:09 p.m.

DarkPaladin11 says... #12

Hi there, I've been playing Esper control for quite a while, your deck looks solid. The only thing that scares me is the land. I feel using four of each scry land is needed to keep your starting hands consistent. But i can see how the low cost counter spells along side the main board Drown in Sorrows help in that category. Seems like your main boarding mostly to go against aggro. Which is something my meta game requires me to do also. I would highly recommend siding some Utter Ends though. As the guy mentioned above and i think where he's going with it is you need to be prepared for enchanment/planeswalker type decks. Just my opinion. Also its interesting to see Sorin, Solemn Visitor not being used. But It looks like it works, especially in this build. Also i'm glad you are also aware on how Jace, the Living Guildpact is good. I would appreciate it if you could look at an Esper Midrange deck i'm currently working on. Especially since you obviously have some knowledge in these colors, Thanks. http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/esper-mid-range-need-suggestions/

February 20, 2015 1:04 a.m.

DarkPaladin11 says... #13

I just noticed, but why dont you use Thoughtseize, to me thats an auto include in black.

February 20, 2015 1:08 a.m.

IzzetGod says... #14

Do you find having only 6 sources of is enough that you would usually cast End Hostilities on turn 5 or Elspeth, Sun's Champion on turn 6?

February 21, 2015 10:49 a.m.

BoardFire says... #15

Congrats on 200 upvotes. This deck has gone a long way from standard death and taxes.

February 26, 2015 9:01 p.m.

TheHroth says... #16

@BoardFire

Thanks man! It sure has changed a lot. I'm really looking forward to what Dragons of Tarkir can bring to the table! :D

February 26, 2015 9:21 p.m.

TheHroth says... #17

Took out End Hostilities in favor of Crux of Fate for more consistency in my lands. Now running a full set of Dismal Backwater, and only 1 of each temple.

Thoughts on the new build??

March 4, 2015 10:55 a.m.

Spencerbot15 says... #18

You might want to switch back, considering the number of dragons coming out in Dragons of Tarkir. What do you think of Narset Transcendent and Pristine Skywise?

March 4, 2015 3:33 p.m.

Like the UB based version better. I've been playing around with it, and between my similar build and my sultai build, I don't know what I like better. When Narset Transcendent comes out, I already know I'll be running esper again, but currently can't decide between builds.

March 4, 2015 8:48 p.m.

TheHroth says... #20

I'll definitely switch back to End Hostilities after Dragons releases, because dragons and non-dragons makes for hard choices on Crux.

Not just because of dragons though. Narset PW looks great, and the new megamorph-Negate on a beatstick seems fun to try out at the very least.

Either that, or I will scrap control and play Jeskai again, because Dragon Fodder makes tokens so much better.

March 4, 2015 9:39 p.m.

Femme_Fatale says... #21

Run both. You can have multiple decks you know :p

March 4, 2015 9:40 p.m.

TheHroth says... #22

Yeaaahhh but I can only play one deck at FNM!! xD

But that is true. I will end up having both. I hate tearing apart decks.

March 4, 2015 9:45 p.m.

klone13 says... #23

March 5, 2015 3:31 p.m.

Silumgar, the Drifting Death is a great WinCon and much cheaper then 8 walkers.

March 5, 2015 3:31 p.m.

TheHroth says... #25

@klone13

I will most definitely be adding Narset Transcendent to this deck. The hard part will be acquiring a couple copies :P

But she will be replacing Jace, the Living Guildpact, and I'd like to find room for at least a second. Perhaps a third copy.

I may end up shifting towards a more / base, as opposed to /.

@MAGESTIC_LLAMA

Silumgar, the Drifting Death is good, but not necessarily better than anything I already have. Though I definitely would like a copy to add to my SB for the control matchup.

March 5, 2015 3:48 p.m.