Gameover209X says... #2
So after a bit of tinkering and researching, I have come to the realization that there are about 3 ways to make a viable wolf deck.
One is to use elves & Shamans such as Master of the Wild Hunt Tolsimir Wolfblood and Wren's Run Packmaster probably even Wolfbriar Elemental Plus some simple little ramp elves maybe supported by some Caravan Vigil Coat of Arms ? Doubling Season ? Gaea's Anthem ? Parallel Lives ? mono green token staple Howl of the Nightpack
The second way would basically revolve around summoning Tree of Redemption to feed Feed the Pack and summoning Hellrider to swing for the kill. The support cards are similar maybe add a Dolmen Gate in there to protect those wolves for a second finishing blow?
The 3rd way. Thats more tricky because that is what I am trying to develop right now. Thinking of maybe going w/ a turn 1: Tundra Wolves / Young Wolf Turn 2 Mayor of Avabruck Flip Watchwolf One lord and the best 2 drop wolf in the game imo. Turn 3 Pyreheart Wolf / Immerwolf One for evasion and finishing and the other lord for wolves.
Then is where it gets tricky. I want to finish with wolves not wolf tokens. so... Wolfir Silverheart ? Wolf Pack ?
support with Rancor Alpha Status Overrun ? Coat of Arms and Dolmen Gate ?
Any help on developing this would be highly appreciated. White isnt my forte and this would be my first tri-color deck so any and all help would be extremely appreciated!
thanks.
October 14, 2013 1:19 a.m.
JakeHarlow says... #3
Nice deck!! I really like the devotion to the theme. I have a few suggestions, however (mind you, the deck seems focused enough so anything I throw out is really just subject to personal play style).
If it were me, I'd drop an Ethereal Armor for another Witchstalker . A 3-mana 3/3 with hexproof, plus that built-in ability, is too good to have just one of. I understand you are keeping your mana curve low, which is admirable, but I'm also going to throw out Wolfbriar Elemental and Howl of the Night Pack . The latter probably isn't very good because you don't have any mana ramp, but it is wolf-themed and could be a late-game finisher, or perhaps just a fun thing to sideboard.
Finally, I have another 4-mana suggestion. Even though he's not a wolf, Master of the Wild Hunt is a very awesome card and he produces wolf tokens on every upkeep. Plus he has built-in spot removal. I'd at least sideboard him, if I were you.
All in all, an awesome deck, likely very playable. Thanks for posting!
October 17, 2013 11:30 p.m.
Gameover209X says... #4
Thanks for the insight bro.
Ideally, I agree that the Witchstalker should be at the very least a 2 of, of not a 4 of. I initially had him at 2 and 2 w/ Lone Wolf but he is too pricy for me at 3 bucks a pop so I will trade into him soon.
Initially, I had an all green build w/ Feed the Pack and Tree of Redemption combo, but I really really wanted to make a deck that could win using strictly wolves so I moved to a green/white build which makes Howl of the Nightpack much weaker.
Master of the Wild Hunt is another guy I was gonna auto include until I checked out the price tag haha. In the future I plan on making a build using him and the elves/shamans to make a sweet wolf token deck haha.
Thanks for the comment bro.
Cheers.
October 18, 2013 1:13 a.m.
JakeHarlow says... #5
No problem man. Totally understandable about Howl of the Night Pack . Doesn't do much good unless you run mono-green. Also, Master of the Wild Hunt is indeed very pricy. I'd be interested to see the future token rush deck you mentioned you might make in the future involving him, though!
Tree of Redemption is very interesting...thanks for drawing my attention to it. It might work well in a modern Maze's End deck I'm attempting to build.
October 18, 2013 1:30 a.m.
PriestessKikyo1 says... #6
Wolfir Silverheart and Wolfir Avenger are good wolves that don't have too hefty a price tag. You could probably save up for Master of the Wild Hunt by just putting all the loose change you get into a jar for a couple of weeks, or just by going without small luxuries for example not buying any fast food. But I know what its like being on a budget, I haven't been able to purchase any new cards in months. :( I really like tribal and theme decks, so +1 for that.
October 18, 2013 2:35 a.m.
Gameover209X says... #7
Hey man,
Yeah I like both of the Wolfirs, Im pretty clogged at the 3 slot though. But I could really see Wolfir Silverheart making a difference late game providing a 4/4 boost for one of my evasive wolves, I just dont know that to take out. -2 Pacifism ? or -2Tundra Wolves ? Even the Hunter's Insight might be able to go in his place.
Either way, I'll have to playtest a bit and decide if the deck is agrro enough to stay below the 3 drop curve or if I should dabble w/ the Wolfir Silverheart which I have 2 of already.
As for the money aspect, I actually have the money but Ive been spending so much on cards recently for my goblin deck and my vampire deck that I had to limit myself so Im past my limit for the next month hahaha. Thanks for the +1 and the advice bro.
October 18, 2013 2:54 a.m.
Gameover209X says... #8
Hey guys,
I was also thinking of adding Wild Dogs in place of Young Wolf just cuz he can be an early game beater and cycled if I draw him midgame. How do you guys feel about it I mean he is a canine after all. OR I can just make a hound deck later using this badboy haha
October 18, 2013 3:19 a.m.
JakeHarlow says... #9
Hmmmmm...
I really like Wolfir Avenger as a reusable spot removal (provided there is mana available). I don't really think Wolfir Silverheart is entirely necessary. It will raise your mana curve a bit higher and honestly, I think by turn 5 or so you'll either be swamping the enemy with your canine friends or pacifying the big threats. Maybe sideboard him, because he is very cool. I just think he'd slow things down too much, despite his formidable powers.
LOL at Wild Dogs . What a cool card! They are fast and pack a nice punch. Just be sure to keep your opponent's life total below yours, or they will turn on you! :)
October 18, 2013 12:50 p.m.
PriestessKikyo1 says... #10
Speaking of Hounds, if you aren't opposed to them in the deck there is always Isamaru, Hound of Konda . I agree with what JakeHarlow has to say about the two I mentioned, though I'm having a harder time giving advice on what to take out. It's one of the toughest aspects of deckbuilding, IMO. I guess I'd probably choose -2 Pacifism .
October 19, 2013 2:10 a.m.
Gameover209X says... #12
Yeah the Isamaru is a sweet one drop but a little pricy for me at the moment haha.
Taking cards out can be a pain in the ass but a good problem to have. Thanks for the input fellas. I might mess w/ the hounds later, for not I think Ima stick with the wolves and have a go at the hounds later.
October 20, 2013 4:19 a.m.
Gameover209X says... #14
What would you suggest I take out?
The umbra cmc seems a little too high for this deck and I would have to throw in more lands to run it.
But the Briarpack Alpha I think may have a place but it seems a little too steep as well.
Thanks for the help!
November 2, 2013 3:14 a.m.
Hmm... Sword of Body and Mind ? It's not incredibly pricey, and it makes 2/2 wolves whenever the equipped creature deals damage PLUS causes the opponent to mill 10.
November 2, 2013 3:29 a.m.
Gameover209X says... #17
artakha that'd be a great card but unfortunately I am concentrating on enchantments to work with Ethereal Armor and eventually Daybreak Coronet . Thanks for the suggetion though!
Muneco thats actually a sick card, but I think that it competes too much with my 3 drops. For example I get out Witchstalker then turn 4 if I dont hit another mana Ill just be able to play Oath of the Ancient Wood instead of say Daybreak Coronet /Spirit Mantle .
I am intrigued tho haha
November 2, 2013 11:59 p.m.
Gameover209X says... #19
haha it started out that way.
If you swap the lands, and take out the Witchstalker and add Lone Wolf in its place, then bam you got yourself a 15 dollar deck haha
November 3, 2013 1:44 a.m.
JakeHarlow says... #22
I really like the form this has taken...especially the added Witchstalker s.
November 7, 2013 10:43 a.m.
+1 man great deck I like me some wolves, I wouldn't consider it budget but it is cheaper than most. One card I may suggest is Lone Wolf one of the good wolf's back then and still legal in modern. He is a three mana cost though but can assign damage wherever you want it to assign it when blocked. Practically unblockable. Overall, deck is good as is..
December 5, 2013 12:42 a.m.
Gameover209X says... #24
xKrenko thanks man! I agree with your comment about the budget. It had started out as a budget deck with a playset of Lone Wolf in place of the Witchstalker s. If we take out the Daybreak Coronet and the dual lands, it actually become pretty budget haha.
I've had Lone Wolf in here for so long it was hard to cut him because I just think he is one of the coolest wolves around.
Gameover209X says... #1
I've started with any viable wolf creatures, or creatures who create wolf tokens.
So far I have 2 lords Mayor of Avabruck Flip and Immerwolf . Now I plan on looking for more cards, instants, sorceries, or creatures that would help me create an army of wolves.
Also I wonder if this deck would work as a tri-color deck since the bondage mechanic is very interesting and the best wolf costs a plains. Watchwolf
October 13, 2013 5:27 p.m.