The Hungriest Aetherborn: Yahenni EDH

Commander / EDH Daedalus19876

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Daedalus19876 says... #1

EternalBrewmaster: Chill - only one of those is in my list, and Kothophed is a great idea :)

January 5, 2017 7:57 p.m.

Lmao that's what I meant. Kothophed is a good card

January 5, 2017 8 p.m.

SomeDipshit says... #3

Cause I cant read, lol

January 5, 2017 10:02 p.m.

Exiled_soul says... #4

Great deck!

January 6, 2017 12:10 a.m. Edited.

neolights2363 says... #5

Ghoulcaller GisaSkirsdag High priestOphiomancerReassembling skeletonNether traitorBloodsoaked Champion

Dictate of erebosButcher of MalakirSword of the Animist is good rampJet medallion goes farther than a mana rock since you're mono black.

January 6, 2017 3:04 a.m.

I'm sorry lolololol this is hilarious. But don't worry, I'm Chill. I also know how to link cards and effectively use punctuation lol.

January 6, 2017 11:01 a.m.

neolights2363 says... #7

New to commenting so I didn't preview it and I also never really comment so I don't really know how to link cards...I'm just trying to help bro >_>.

January 6, 2017 11:09 a.m.

TheRedGoat says... #8

I've figured out what you're missing btw. You need a planeswalker, and I'm not counting baby Lili cause she doesn't start that way. Now I don't rightly know which one unless you went with Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath since he's the only one that straight up makes tokens, but you could make an argument for lots of the others too. If you did put him or any walker in I'd take out Breeding Pit personally.

January 6, 2017 11:23 a.m.

neolights2363 says... #9

In edh planeswalkers are not as strong so Idk if you have to force one in. That being said since you're wiping the field while keeping an indestructible blocker I think it's very feasible to protect a good planeswalker.

January 6, 2017 11:33 a.m.

neolights2363 no worries bud, I was just kidding around. To link cards just put the card name inside double square brackets like this [[]]. And yeah, planeswalkers are not super strong in EDH often, but Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath seems possible as his ultimate is achievable with an army of tokens and a black board control strategy.

January 6, 2017 11:47 a.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #11

RESPONSE TIME!

geekmp3: bows well thank you sir/ma'am! Black is the best color, amirite? Just so versatile, and so many interesting effects.

EternalBrewmaster: Nether Traitor and Bloodghast are good suggestions, and I will consider them :) I love Plague of Vermin in EDH, though I get even better use out of it in my Karlov deck.

Errast: I'll consider those, thanks! Particularly Skirsdag High Priest, I hadn't thought of that before.

LittleBlueHero: I've been back and forth on Infernal Genesis. I feel it fulfills a similar slot to Tombstone Stairwell: a symmetric token-maker that might kill me. I am a little unconvinced though because it costs 6 mana, and could backfire on me heavily. It could be fun with Night of Souls' Betrayal though...I'll take a look at your list!

illumfolly: How in the world did I forget Kothophed, Soul Hoarder??

Exiled_soul: Thanks! :)

neolights2363: Don't worry about it! :) I appreciate your comments - formatting isn't a big deal lol. Plus, all the things you listed really should be in here...if I can find slots :/

TheRedGoat: If I were to include a planeswalker, it would probably be Ob Nixilis Reignited or Ugin, the Spirit Dragon. Why do you think I need a planeswalker here, though?

January 6, 2017 12:01 p.m. Edited.

Man you are the response master. And you're facing the same problem I always face when deckbuilding, and especially with black decks: there's just too many good cards.

January 6, 2017 12:33 p.m.

neolights2363 says... #13

Figure out a focus. Yahenni reminds me of how I use Ghost council of orzhova. Sacking and creating tokens to keep a presence with a sticky and evasive commander. Difference is Yahenni is less sticky with indestructible vs flicker BUT you can voltron him since he never leaves the board. You can abuse grave pact effects and also control the board much more freely than most decks bc you have a reliable board presence. My suggestion in a multiplayer format is design this build so that Yahenni can protect himself at all times at instant speed and use grave pact effects to dissuade people carelessly attacking in! Then go for win more from there to seal the deal.

January 6, 2017 6:13 p.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #15

First major revision is complete! I owe a lot to your comments here :)

Thought?

January 6, 2017 9:11 p.m.

neolights2363 says... #18

Illumfolly is right. Buried alive!!! And Bloodsoaked champion can be done at instant speed (on your turn at least) where bloodghast is only a landfall trigger.

-More Non creature removal. We have many ways to deal with creatures already.

-Trample and lifelink on an indestructible body will put in WORK. 1 Loxodon Warhammer prob over O-Naginata.

-With all the things dying you may want to consider a zulaport cutthroat.

January 7, 2017 9:35 a.m.

neolights2363 says... #19

Loxodon warhammer (lifelink + trample)

Sword of vengeance (vigilance + trample + first strike)

Sword of the Animist (ramp)

Infiltration Lens (draw)

Dark prophecy (faster than phyrexian arena but why not both)

Dictate of Erebos (staple here)

Sidis, Undead Vizier (tutor on a stick)

Bloodsoaked Champion

Reassembling skeleton (INSTANT SPEED ANY TIME! cannot stress this enough)

Karn Silver Golem turns board wipes and creature removal into artifact destruction too... at instant speed thus mitigating mono black limitation. :)

January 7, 2017 10:09 a.m.

TheRedGoat says... #20

I had suggested the Planeswalker idea mainly from a personal bias towards win more cards/effects, which basically all walkers have. Although I had felt that Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath really was a good card for a multiplayer commander game.

January 7, 2017 10:58 a.m.

I would make the argument that Harvester of Souls, Overseer of the Damned, and Languish should have stayed in the deck. The first gives you unparalleled card draw that perfectly synergizes with your strategy (it's not just your creatures dying that draws cards). Overseer gens you tons of dudes. And Languish is basically a must play in black decks in the post-Meren/Atraxa EDH environment. They're the two most common and busted commanders and they both have 4 toughness, not to mention most of the utility creatures in the entire format have less than 4 toughness.

January 7, 2017 11:16 a.m.

lol it took a joke deck to dethrone you buddy RIP PROS HATE ME!!! FIND OUT HOW I GOT A TURN 0 WIN!!!

January 7, 2017 1:14 p.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #23

illumfolly: Hatred is the path to the dark side. But we're in black, so we embrace that. The card is awesome, and I've already included it :)

I'm honestly not too much of a fan of Abhorrent Overlord :( His tokens arrive too late in the game to be super helpful, and I'm looking for the slow-grind repeatable token makers right now.

Smokestack is an extremely powerful card, but for the moment I'm trying to stay away from the really hard stax/lockdown cards (like Contamination). I'll consider adding it if this deck gets more competitive.

And I'm considering Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder. Has he played well for you?

Glistening Oil: I don't want to be THAT guy who plays infect. Fallen Ideal is interesting! I hadn't considered that before. I need to test more to see if I generally have a lot of creatures out at any given point (which would make it worth it). Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed is too expensive, and Yawgmoth's Will is something I prefer in combo decks.

Thanks for the comment! Sorry for the somewhat terse response, I haven't had much time to comment on this deck recently and the comments are piling up :(

neolights2363: What noncreature removal would you suggest? I'm already playing Gate to Phyrexia, which is almost the only artifact removal in black. Most of the removal in colorless is really, really expensive (in terms of mana) so I don't think it's good enough.

Now, with regards to equipment - I'm trying to make this deck distinct from my Judgment Day: Avacyn the Purifier EDH | *PRIMER* deck, so I don't want to focus too much on equipment. With that in mind,

Loxodon Warhammer: Honestly, I generally prefer the non-lifelink trample from O-Naginata for 3 mana less. I'll test it, though

Sword of Vengeance: Overcosted, and haste/first strike are not too handy on my commander.

Sword of the Animist is sweet, but since my commander comes down early, it doesn't fit well into my curve. Again, though, I'll consider it.

Infiltration Lens: I prefer straight unblockable TBH.

Dark Prophecy: I've been back-and-forth on this one. It's only useful when I already have a degree of setup (tokens on field and a sac outlet), whereas Phyrexian Arena is useful at all points in the game. I'm undecided here, and I'd love to find slots in both, but...

Dictate of Erebos: Already in of course :)

Sidisi, Undead Vizier: I'd rather play Demonic Tutor or Vampiric Tutor TBH.

Bloodsoaked Champion/Reassembling Skeleton: I cannot decide on these without a little more testing, but at the moment I'm worried that holding up the 2 mana might be a problem. We'll have to see. Bloodghast is so good because it costs no mana to recur it.

Karn, Silver Golem: Oooh, interesting!

Thanks for the comment! :)

TheRedGoat: Personally, I think Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath might be the worst black planeswalker of all time. I'd love to be proved wrong - what do you like about him?

EternalBrewmaster: I feel that Damnation is a strict upgrade over Languish, and that I'm playing a decent array of board wipes already. Which card would you cut for Languish? -X/-X wipes don't play nice with my commander :(

I thought that Overseer of the Damned costs too much mana - do you feel it's worth seven? Also, I don't like the art :(

Harvester of Souls doesn't work well with my tokens, though...Should I put Dark Prophecy instead? It also doesn't die to my board wipes.

And yeah, this deck had a good run in the top rankings, hehe. Now time for further promotion! :)

January 7, 2017 7:01 p.m.

pet_snake says... #24

As far as Mono-B noncreature removal I find that this is the best philosophy: The ways you could stop it are so bad, you might as well not*. The few cards that actually kill stuff like Artifacts or enchantments in black are so few or just not good enough to include that you're better off doing one of two plans: 1) Kill that player as a means of dealing with it or 2) Use politics, I can almost guarantee that someone at your table is either playing White, Green or Red and has a way of stopping it.

*Unless you're playing stax.

January 7, 2017 7:55 p.m.

TheRedGoat says... #25

To think better on the use of Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath, he is likely best left to a "battlecruiser" style deck that plays partly control and partly big creatures. Your deck by contrast is more centered around potential commander damage kill or a wave of mass tokens, which either way is better supplemented by something like Akroma's Memorial than the walker.

Incidentally I would point out that the memorial would let your Crypt Rats be a one sided board wipe effect, and also you may consider Sadistic Hypnotist as a less mana intensive version than Mind Slash ( there is also Corpse Traders, but the only "benefit" there is it being a creature).

Truthfully I think I may start working on a "Black Oath" deck just to get more familiar with the card. Regardless, best of luck to you on your own deck!

January 8, 2017 12:44 p.m.

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