The Inquisition

Modern Arnez

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Nightdragon779 says... #1

December 3, 2015 5:28 p.m.

feightj1 says... #2

Why are you playing Thalia, Guardian of Thraben with so many noncreature spells? She simply makes them cost more for you to play. Yes, it does help against control a bit, but it also hurts you.

December 3, 2015 10:59 p.m.

Arnez says... #3

Thanks for the comment feightj1, I have won a lot of games because of Thalia, Guardian of Thraben; she does work in this deck, so I'll stick with her. My local meta is control heavy, so far, I've done pretty great with Thalia. Maybe, I could play less noncreature spell though. ;)

December 4, 2015 8:59 a.m.

326 says... #4

Entreat is more or less unplayable. It's generally bad in Modern and you've nowhere near enough lands to support it.

Aether Vial might be good with so many random 1-drops. Mana advantage is important and all of that.

Leyline is pretty bad. There are far superior hate cards against Burn, which should be an ok matchup for you anyway. You don't really give a rat's ass about discard: Leyline will generally just be a mulligan to 6 that might make your opponent mulligan to 6 or at best 5. Liliana is very meh against you anyway, so people will most likely side out some amount of them. You only really want to play it if you're vulnerable to Discard, which you're not. Also, two copies is too few if you actually want to run it - it really doesn't do much of anything after t1-3.

December 4, 2015 2:17 p.m.

ArchFline says... #5

This deck could benefit from a late game solution such as Felidar Sovereign or Archangel of Thune

December 12, 2015 6:39 p.m.

Arnez says... #6

Thanks ArchFline, I was just thinking of trying out Archangel of Thune. In your opinion, how many lands should I run with the Archangel; is 20 enough?

December 12, 2015 9:26 p.m.

326 says... #7

23 lands is pretty much the minimum that you can run if you want to be casting your 5-drops on curve a relevant amount of the time. Even that's pretty greedy.

December 12, 2015 9:36 p.m.

ArchFline says... #8

December 12, 2015 10:04 p.m.

Arnez says... #9

I guess that was wishful thinking, huh? Thanks, 326.

December 12, 2015 10:05 p.m.

LDM393 says... #10

instead of playing thalia, why not the new angel from origins archangel of tithes?

December 15, 2015 11:42 p.m.

ArchFline says... #11

@Arnez in order to run the two higher drops that I linked 20lands if fine but only if you drop your 2 Ghost Quarter in favor of Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx, this land plus your Windbrisk Heights give you solid playability of higher drops such as the ones I've mentioned.

December 16, 2015 12:20 a.m.

Arnez says... #12

@ArchFline Thanks so much for your suggestions; I've been wanting to run Archangel of Thune for a while, but I hadn't even considered Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx. I'm definitely going to try that out. It might actually work; I auto-lose to Tron anyway!

December 16, 2015 12:39 a.m.

ArchFline says... #13

Versus tron run Aura of Silence and Stony Silence that usually does it pretty well although little will stop an All Is Dust or ugin.

December 16, 2015 12:50 a.m.

MOlinger2726 says... #14

It doesn't synergize well, but I feel like this deck should run Elite Inquisitor for flavor reasons

December 18, 2015 9:58 p.m.

326 says... #15

The Nykthos plan is... ambitious imo. Nykthos can pretty easily ruin your opening hands and will not be consistent enough in casting 5-drops before it's too late for it to matter. Modern is a perilous place for creatures. If you want to run the Angel, just add enough lands. They can be utility lands such as Ghost Quarter, Tec Edge or WB Heights - you're running 3x Ranger of Eos anyway, so additional lands wouldn't hurt. Besides, 3x Angel is overkill by at least one.

December 19, 2015 6:22 a.m.

326 says... #16

Oh, also: not playing Ajani's Pridemage is pretty weird. It's one of the reasons to play Soul Sisters instead of a non-thematic White Weenie deck. You're paying a quite high price for Serra Ascendant by playing not-so-great cards like the Soul Sisters and Martyr.

December 19, 2015 6:28 a.m.

ArchFline says... #17

I disagree 326 even in a non opportune setting I see few instances in which a nykthos coulnot be played by turn 3 and generate mana in excess of the initial cost due to his devotion to white and the many 1 drops he runs. This only become even more true if he decides to run Ajani's Pridemate. I however would move ghost quarters into a side board as its not necessary unless your fight a deck its meaningful against such as Tron. This gives your mana base the rigidity it needs to run Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx.

December 19, 2015 10:21 a.m.

326 says... #18

You need four points of devotion on the board for Nykthos to do anything which will not be happening all that often. Nykthos is an acceptable 1-of because of the niche uses it has with stuff like Ranger - adding more is generally just not worth it unless you're playing something like the GR Devotion deck.

December 19, 2015 2:05 p.m.

ArchFline says... #19

Playing a soul sister deck you do not aim for a turn 3-4win because as a life gaining deck you are base around stalling your opponent by making an aggressive strategy against you more difficult. By that logic of you do not have a late game solution for victory you fail, not to mention that your biggest threat in competitive play will be affinity and tron, which white has answers for (however they slow down the deck) thus by this understanding if you don't run something like nykthos you set your self up for failure when you inevitable fight the threats that competitive will throw at you :/ but if you don't accept that, that is fine in the end all games in magic are meant to be fun and showcase the play strategy of the user.

December 19, 2015 4:14 p.m.

326 says... #20

Soul Sisters is a synergistic deck that abuses lifegain triggers and your own high life total to make cards such as Serra Ascendant and Ajani's Pridemage absurdly efficient for their mana cost. It is not a "gain life to manage to get into the late game to play random 5-drops"-deck.

"not to mention that your biggest threat in competitive play will be affinity and tron, which white has answers for (however they slow down the deck) thus by this understanding if you don't run something like nykthos you set your self up for failure when you inevitable fight the threats that competitive will throw at you :/"

Are you trying to say that running Nykthos is good in the matchups against Tron and/or Affinity because your sideboard options slow your deck down? Because that is how I understood this part. If it indeed is what you're trying to say, I really don't see an argument to be made for that. Nykthos is terrible against Tron due to sweepers and the matchup against Affinity is a simple question of drawing the hate early enough. The hate against Affinity is brutal enough to pretty much just shut it down on the spot.

December 20, 2015 4:52 a.m.

Arnez says... #21

@326 @ArchFline Guys, should I be moderating this debate? ;) In all seriousness though, I really appreciate the in-depth analysis going here; I've learned even more about this archetype because of you guys. You both make valid points. After extensive testing, I've ultimately decided that the deck does need another finisher like Archangel of Thune. The Archangel impacts the board dramatically and has amazing synergy. However, 20 lands was not nearly enough and didn't like Nykthos felt in the deck overall; It was kind of clunky. So, I've taken from the best of both your arguments. Anyway, thanks so much you two; I've never gotten this much input before!

December 20, 2015 9:30 a.m.

ArchFline says... #22

Sorry Arnez but good luck with the deck, feel free to delete my comments if you like, they are just cluttering up the comment box.

December 20, 2015 11:25 a.m.

Cosmo_Can says... #23

NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!

January 5, 2016 11:51 p.m.

Jack-Frost says... #24

Have you thought about Serra Avatar + Wall of Reverence?

Also, while this may not be of much help Grand Abolisher is a great card for protection.

January 10, 2016 12:35 a.m.

fdn2 says... #25

Serra Avatar may be a bit too slow

May 1, 2016 9:53 p.m.

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