@MagicMike69: Strongly disagree. Just today I dropped Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur on turn three. You wouldn't even have Sedris, the Traitor King unless you ramped into him with moxen and Dark Ritual . For that very reason, you need Reliquary Tower . Rest in Peace also comes to mind, since you'd want to hold off discarding things until you could get rid of it. There's a bunch of reasons to have Reliquary Tower that I can go on and on.
March 26, 2013 1:27 a.m.
Epochalyptik says... #3
Pongify and Rapid Hybridization are functionally identical; neither allows the creature to be regenerated.
March 26, 2013 1:30 a.m.
RegisteredDecksOffender says... #4
@Epochalyptik: Oh jeeze I overlooked that and thought I knew that card. :P whoops.
@Sylvannos: I still disagree since my whole deck function is to put things in the graveyard and reanimate them, and at the end of it all if someone drops a Rest in Peace on my deck, a Reliquary Tower isn't going to help me much, but I still can see an argument for it, I've got a Reliquary Tower around and I will try it out, thank you for your advice. :)
March 26, 2013 1:33 a.m.
@MagicMike69: I play reanimator, too, in EDH. The trick is putting stuff into the graveyard when you want to, not when you're opponents tell you. They may destroy your hand, then cast Rest in Peace , or Tormod's Crypt , or Bojuka Bog , or counter Sedris, the Traitor King , or...well you get the picture.
March 26, 2013 1:36 a.m.
RegisteredDecksOffender says... #6
@Sylvannos: Yes, you do make a very valid point and it is nice to get a veteran EDH player's advice, especially when we both play the same type of deck. Do you have any suggestion on a land I would take out to add Reliquary Tower ?
March 26, 2013 1:57 a.m.
I'm leaning towards Reflecting Pool (since it can't tap for anything by itself, making it bad on turn one and getting shut down if they Strip Mine or Wasteland the other land you have in play) or a basic Swamp .
March 26, 2013 2 a.m.
RegisteredDecksOffender says... #8
I think I may have to disagree with that because I've got a decent array of color producing lands, and even if it does happen to only copy a swamp, I think that I would rather have another swamp in a pinch than another colorless producing land.. I know I've got a long way to go on perfecting my land base, but I've already got a decent amount of colorless producing land in a fairly color intensive deck :/
I do agree that Reliquary Tower could possibly benefit me, but I don't think dropping the Reflecting Pool is the answer.. Hmm.. This may take some thinking. Lol.. is there any other suggestions perhaps?
March 26, 2013 2:09 a.m.
The other one that stood out was Volrath's Stronghold . It's only good against removal being played. Even then, they'd have to activate Tormod's Crypt or Deathrite Shaman or whatever first before you could respond. Otherwise, your graveyard goes bye-bye and Volrath's Stronghold fizzles.
March 26, 2013 2:14 a.m.
RegisteredDecksOffender says... #10
Hmm.. It seems like we may be talking in worse case scenarios though.. Is it safe to assume since I've only got little bits of card draw here and there that the re-usability of Volrath's Stronghold as another source of reanimator, although still producing colorless, is a better option.. at least with the current deck build.. Obviously it will change with time and practice, but I feel like both the lands you suggested are some of the stronger on the list..
March 26, 2013 2:19 a.m.
Zen_Toombs says... #11
MagicMike69: You are proving that you have a fantastic eye for commander cards. Volrath's Stronghold is absolutely fantastic, Reflecting Pool should be in basically any multicolor commander deck that can afford the card, and Phyrexian Tower is just bloody useful (especially seeing as it's the only thing that can stop Take Possession from stealing a creature, and sac outlets in general are super good). If you wish to cut a land for another land, I'd probably cut Shizo, Death's Storehouse . It's neat, but not having to discard is actually pretty powerful.
By the by, would you mind taking a look at my deck, Enter the Maelstrom Suggestions please? I'd like the thoughts of you and your friend.
March 26, 2013 3:19 p.m.
RegisteredDecksOffender says... #12
@Zen_Toombs: Thank you man, I really appreciate your constant help and discussions about mine and my friend's decks, so of course we will help and make suggestions for yours! And you do raise a good point about Shizo, Death's Storehouse I think that's answered my need to put in a Reliquary Tower .
I'll show my friend BinkyBoo your deck and we'll see if we may have any suggestions too! Thanks again, and I'll link your deck so any one who may be following my deck can help as well!
Zen_Toombs's Deck: Enter the Maelstrom Suggestions please
March 26, 2013 6:59 p.m.
RegisteredDecksOffender says... #13
Hmm.. It seems for some reason it won't link.. well regardless I'll take a look at it! :)
March 26, 2013 6:59 p.m.
I think you've got a pretty high curve but I like your choices. My grixis deck Max Grief Grixis has fewer creatures and uses effects like Sunken Hope , maybe you can find something in there. +1
March 31, 2013 9:23 p.m.
I would take the praetors out; they are just huge targets and rarely get to untap.
Instead, play more creatures with ETB. This is one of the only decks where Rune-Scarred Demon is good. Sphinx of Uthuun = Fact or Fiction for 3cmc? Yes, please. Wurmcoil Engine = 2 nice bodies and a strong swing? Of course.
And finally, this whole deck could be given super powers with Mirror-Mad Phantasm and Mesmeric Orb . I can't imagine playing Sedris without them.
I like the list. +1
April 8, 2013 8:16 p.m.
RegisteredDecksOffender says... #19
Thank you for your compliments, it's nice to have some positive feedback! I was considering Wurmcoil Engine because it's simply amazing..But as for the praetors, I find myself disagreeing because they're pretty great, and they make people shit themselves. Lol.
As for Sphinx of Uthuun I should have considered that, I think that's one I will have to work in there.. that seems ridiculous in this deck build, I will try that out for sure.
But for Mirror-Mad Phantasm I think that could be really good for loading up my graveyard, but that could also throw key sorceries and instants into the graveyard that I unfortunately couldn't Unearth and potentially deck me if he's deep in there, throwing away precious cards I might need later.
and I find Mesmeric Orb interesting.. I feel like that is one I might have to try to put to practice to see how well it would work.. it seems pretty good! Thank you for your input and your +1! :)
April 8, 2013 11:58 p.m.
miracleHat says... #20
what do you think of Jace, the Mind Sculptor ? or are foreign ones out of your budget?
April 9, 2013 12:01 a.m.
RegisteredDecksOffender says... #21
I think Jace, the Mind Sculptor is an amazing card and should probably be in most- if not all EDH decks with blue.. But I'm not sure where I could fit him in or if he goes with the theme of the deck.. I don't know.. what do you think Fox, where do you think he could go in replacement and do you think he fits the build..?
April 9, 2013 12:06 a.m.
Re: Mirror-Mad Phantasm , in Sedris decks, I think it is better to play less spells and more "spells on a stick."
What I mean is that, in most decks Fact or Fiction is much better than Sphinx of Uthuun , but in Sedris, the sphinx is better because it can be casted from the hand or the graveyard.
So more "spells on a stick." Even stuff like Mindclaw Shaman or Augur of Bolas or Disciple of Bolas should get careful consideration.
Also, keep in mind that the power of stuff like Mirror-Mad Phantasm is that if you ever have, say, Undercity Informer + Great Whale / Palinchron + Deadeye Navigator in your graveyard, you automatically win (uncounterable infinite mill). I am not saying play dirty combos, I am saying load your GY up with spells on a stick.
April 9, 2013 1:23 p.m.
Hey whats up Mike, I missed you comment before about Bitterblossom , it works really well and doesn't come back to bite you if you play the occasional Consuming Vapors or Wurmcoil Engine . When I play it it goes really well with Grave Pact and even better with Anowon, the Ruin Sage , Defiler of Souls or Sunken Hope . If you try out sunken hope, watch out for them abusing their cheap ETB guys like Stoneforge Mystic . In general it's really blocking good if you're playing control. Peace.
April 9, 2013 2:24 p.m.
miracleHat says... #25
for jtms, i believe that it should be used in nearly all edh decks, and that for this deck, you should drop Sphinx of Lost Truths its abilities don't seem good enough to me.
RegisteredDecksOffender says... #1
LOL @Zen_Toombs: Your comment made me laugh. XD @SpammyV: I agree with both you and Zen_Toombs, he seems pretty amazing now that I sat down and think about it, thank you all so much for your comments! Now give it a +1 you sons of bitches! :P
@M12Fox: I'm using the French 1v1 Ban list so as amazing as Sensei's Divining Top is, I can't use it. :/ I do like Pongify and Rapid Hybridization though, they seem pretty solid in EDH, I'm leaning more towards Rapid Hybridization for the cannot be regenerated, that's really nice actually and I completely overlooked it.And as far as Scroll Rack goes, it seems pretty damn useful, but I think I prefer the draw abilities that make me discard my fatties to reanimate later, wouldn't you agree?
March 26, 2013 12:49 a.m.