The Nayan Apocalypse

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Alechilles says... #1

In my local meta, I've been running into Aristocrats rather often. I am working on putting something together extremely similar to this now, so how do you typically deal with aristocrats?

June 28, 2013 12:14 p.m.

Jimhawk says... #2

Aristocrats is a GOD-AWFUL matchup that relies heavily on the sideboard to win. In the main, you generally have to hope to stick an Unflinching Courage on something and ride it to victory. In the side, bringing in Rest in Peace , Safe Passage , and Boros Charm makes things much easier.

That said, the matchup is still probably 65-35 in their favor, and I'm only 2-4 all-time against Aristocrats decks.

June 28, 2013 3:30 p.m.

Alechilles says... #3

Ok haha. I figured it wouldn't be easy. I was having a really rough game yesterday vs Aristocrats with my Selesnya's Horde (Current). After a really long time of us both building up strength, but neither of us being able to cause significant damage to the other, he managed to get Sorin, Lord of Innistrad on the field. I couldn't find an oppurtunity where I would be able to hit through his defences to take out sorin, so eventually he was able to use sorin's ultimate and steal my Trostani, Selesnya's Voice , along with destroying my 8/8 elemental and one of my 5/5 wurms (tokens). He started populating his demon tokens with trostani, and that's what ultimately led to him beating me that game. The second game was just a complete massacre. His deck did exactly what it was meant to do, and mine didn't do anything right. haha. It didn't help that I didn't draw anything from my sideboard. I really could have used a Rest in Peace .

June 28, 2013 3:46 p.m.

mcflufystein says... #4

Are you going to be updating this into M14?

June 30, 2013 3:34 p.m.

Jimhawk says... #5

Of course! It depends on what I see in the full spoiler.

June 30, 2013 3:56 p.m.

mcflufystein says... #6

http://www.mtgsalvation.com/m14-spoiler.html

This is the most complete list that I've found.

June 30, 2013 7:05 p.m.

Jimhawk says... #7

I follow that spoiler list as well and nothing stands out yet. A couple of good sideboard cards in Ratchet Bomb and Scavenging Ooze are certainly enticing, and Primeval Bounty may be worth trying in the main if I change this deck to have a less aggressive and more ramp-based approach.

June 30, 2013 7:36 p.m.

mcflufystein says... #8

I thought Ring of Three Wishes looked main worthy. And Savage Summoning for the control matchups, in place of Cavern of Souls.

June 30, 2013 8:07 p.m.

mcflufystein says... #9

June 30, 2013 8:09 p.m.

Jimhawk says... #10

I would definitely use Savage Summoning if counterspells became more prevalent. I prefer Ruric Thar, the Unbowed as my control hoser for the time being. Every time he's resolved against my control opponents, they've been at less than 6 life so I get an auto-win.

The ring is extremely mana-intensive and requires you to take a turn off to cast it and a turn off to use it. I think it would be better served in some kind of planeswalker-centric control deck that can buy that sort of time instead of a midrange deck that tries to apply pressure from the mid-game onward. After all, my best tutor is for Aurelia, the Warleader while one in a planeswalker deck is Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker . There's a pretty big gap there in power level.

Ideally, I want to try and make a separate Naya ramp deck with the new Garruk and creatures like Elderscale Wurm and Borborygmos Enraged in addition to non-green powerhouses like Gisela, Blade of Goldnight . I need to see the full spoiler to see if there will be enough 2-3 mana ramp spells for something like that to take shape.

June 30, 2013 8:39 p.m.

mcflufystein says... #11

Have you played the M14 game yet? I'm not sure if they're going to have the same cards but there are combos that can get you 8 mana on turn 4, it's insane. And the green creatures on there are very impressive.

June 30, 2013 9:04 p.m.

mcflufystein says... #12

Sorry let me rephrase that. Can get you up to 8 mana on turn 4.

June 30, 2013 9:05 p.m.

Alechilles says... #13

So I tested this just playing against from friends and randoms at the local shop today, and I found Sigarda, Host of Herons to be an amazing asset. I never realized how difficult it was to get rid of her. haha. It worked perfectly when someone running grixis midrange played a lilliana and they couldn't make me sacrifice anything. I would consider running Sigarda, Host of Herons as a 3 of, but the only real problem I see with that is the fact that she's a legendary.

July 2, 2013 11:12 a.m.

Jimhawk says... #14

Siggy Stardust is my biffle.

July 2, 2013 4:23 p.m.

mcflufystein says... #15

Why dont you run Voice of Resurgence ? I just sold 4 of them because I found them overrated for the 50 dollar sale price. I just want to know what your thought is on them.

July 4, 2013 1:58 p.m.

Jimhawk says... #16

Two reasons: I have 0 Voice of Resurgence , and he doesn't fit very well here. Voice is way, WAY better in the aggro-midrange Naya that is going around right now. I don't make enough creatures to make his token worthwhile, and I have enough post-Verdict pressure to disregard the death trigger.

Voice of Resurgence is defining Standard right now, just like Boros Reckoner and Thragtusk once did. It's not overrated, just overpriced. Its value will drop in time, but should always be at least $30 (similar to Geist of Saint Traft ) entirely because of its added rarity thanks to mythic status.

July 4, 2013 2:52 p.m.

mcflufystein says... #17

It forces you to play around it but you need to have a hand around it as well or it's just another 2 drop. Or at least that is what I thought of it when I was playing with it. How does it fare against this deck? I've yet to versus any.

July 4, 2013 3:16 p.m.

Jimhawk says... #18

I usually just fly or trample over it. My ground creatures don't care much about it when I just trample past with Unflinching Courage . The token is always killable as well, because at 4/4 or less I can kill with Mizzium Mortars and at 5/5 or more I can Selesnya Charm it. I especially love the blowout I create with an overloaded Mortars when they have a token and a bunch of Lingering Souls spirits.

July 4, 2013 3:32 p.m.

mcflufystein says... #19

What is your sideboard package against match ups like reanimator, control, aggro, jund midrange, bant hexproof ect.?

July 5, 2013 3:17 a.m.

Jimhawk says... #20

It varies based on the builds they have, but the general stuff you would expect gets sided in, such as Rest in Peace for reanimator. I would also like to mention the cards I remove, so I may eventually include a sideboarding guide.

July 5, 2013 11:06 p.m.

Alechilles says... #21

Since I'm basically running a mirror of this deck right now, the above would be awesome. haha.

July 6, 2013 8:16 p.m.

Formortiis says... #22

Not too happy about the Ajanis. They'd probably be better off as another charm and another Advent of the Wurm.

July 8, 2013 4:50 p.m.

Jimhawk says... #23

I'm extremely happy about the Ajanis. I can't count on my fingers and toes combined how many games he has won for me.

It even used to be three Ajani, Caller of the Pride before I moved one for Domri Rade to increase versatility.

July 8, 2013 5:08 p.m.

Alechilles says... #24

I have to agree with Jimhawk. I have made great use out of ajani pretty much every time i've played this deck. I even managed to ultimate him AND domri in one game once. That was a blast. I had 30 ridiculously OP 2/2 cats on the field. haha.

July 9, 2013 12:34 a.m.

whaletaint666 says... #25

Bonfire of the Damned wants to be your friend. dont fight it

July 9, 2013 1:08 a.m.

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