Asok_Green Definately. I've spent so much time researching cards that synergize with others it is pretty exhausting. I love to make decks that may seem like it's a hug deck, but turns deadly if left unchecked. If youmake the people think that you are on there side, you are not as big of a target. Then turn on them without a blink of an eye.
April 17, 2015 9:14 p.m.
Valentine35 says... #4
I know the mana cost is a bit daunting, but Thought Reflection is pretty good, and can add more to your draws, and cards that are often over looked are the cycling lands,Lonely Sandbar and Remote Isle, either work as lands or as draw. Also, just for fun i use Teferi's Puzzle Box in my Nekusar, the Mindrazer deck, and its super fun!
May 5, 2015 8:25 p.m.
@Valentine35 I do have Thought Reflection in here. The reason this deck is the way it is is because I don't currently have the cards besides what is here. I might be able to switch the cycle lands into here, but I currently do not have a Puzzle Box sadly. I definitely want one though.
May 5, 2015 9:57 p.m.
Does anyone think I should buy Forced Fruition for this deck? It's pretty expensive, but I think it would pair well with a lot of the cards in here.
May 25, 2015 1:20 p.m.
I might consider Forced Fruition if it weren't for the price. If you're willing to put forth the money for it, I don't see any reason why not. Play that and let your opponents reap some rewards, then throw in all the artifacts and such to damage them.
May 26, 2015 11:43 p.m.
My favorite is when I have a Consecrated Sphinx on the battlefield. So much draw, so little deck.
May 27, 2015 12:04 a.m.
TheFanatic says... #9
I think the word you want in this deck's title is "outweigh". An "outway" is an exit.
Consider putting Phyrexian Metamorph in the deck in place of Clone -- it's mostly just better.
June 5, 2015 11:43 p.m.
Thank you, I knew it looked weird.
I have a Metamorph, but I only have one. It's currently in my Sharuum deck and I prefer it in there instead of here, but I'll try to get one when I have the money to buy it.
Thank you for the suggestion :D
June 5, 2015 11:47 p.m.
I have thoroughly enjoyed play-testing your deck and I just wanted to ask would you still want to draw lots if you didn't have either ((Venser's Journal)) or ((Reliquary Tower)) on the field. On some games I didn't draw either of those cards until i'd already drawn quite a lot of cards.
June 10, 2015 6:29 p.m.
Trigbot97 Thank you for testing it out and I really appreciate the feedback.
I just prefer the card draw mechanic over the screw everybody mechanic with all of the counter spells.
It's just a fun deck that doesn't really matter how many cards you have, but just that you can draw. The end game is to get to Laboratory Maniac, so drawing mass amounts help no matter what.
With all of the graveyard help (Elixir of Immortality, Psychic Spiral, Recall, etc.) I actually prefer putting cards into the graveyard sometimes.
In my original version, I didn't even have Reliquary Tower and Venser's Journal. They are just an added bonus.
June 10, 2015 7:12 p.m.
I suppose it works well either way. I really love this original design of deck.
June 25, 2015 10:38 a.m.
Daedalus19876 says... #14
I would put in Leyline of Anticipation over Vedalken Orrery: cheaper, harder to remove, and there's a chance you can get it turn 1. Or use them both! :)
July 5, 2015 12:02 p.m.
Thank you. I'll see if I can get one when I get the chance. It definitely is better because it can also add to the devotion for my Master of Waves.
July 5, 2015 12:05 p.m.
I had Black Vise before, but it only targets 1 opponent. I have Iron Maiden, Viseling, and Misers' Cage because it doesn't target a single opponent. That way it can get around cards like Leyline of Sanctity and Witchbane Orb. If they did, I would be an instant target and that never works out well.
August 14, 2015 2:35 p.m.
If you want to make a rush of drawing, you could add Alhammarret's Archive. I also found Walking Archive while 'gatherer-ing' how to spell Alhammarret's Archive! Possibly underpowered compared to other stuff already in the deck, but an idea.
I'm interested in how Jin-Git works here as it seems counter productive to the 'vice etc.' strategy... I see that if Lab Maniac is the main plan for win con then he helps, but is it helpful enough?
September 27, 2015 5:27 a.m.
Thank you for your comment. I do like the AA and will see about getting one. As for the walking archive, it's color identity is blue/white since the ability requires white and blue to activate. I would like to add it, but sadly I can't. Lastly, the JG is a late game item while the vises and cages work early on. While they focus so much on getting rid of some of the things that can hurt them. They distract while my true goal is being assembled without them knowing.
If they happen to get rid of stuff, I have cards like Elixir of Immortality and/or Recall to bring back the stuff I need. Since I added Drift of Phantasms, it can search for my win con. The best part is that they can only counter transmute with cards like Stifle and/or Trickbind. I know that some people say you need counters and stuff like that, but I just despise counterspells with a passion.
Anyway....thanks for the comment. I'll get an AA when I have the chance. :)
September 27, 2015 5:45 a.m.
Good point, when I looked I actually thought it was 2UU to activte - duh me!
September 27, 2015 7 a.m.
Merchant Scroll and Mystical Tutor.
Tutor finds enter, and scroll finds tutor, but they can be used for anything else you might need. I always like to run many tutors/draw spells because of singleton.
May 15, 2016 midnight
Thanks. It is, but I haven't really needed to add new cards recently. It seems to work well in my current meta because our play group is relatively casual. Plus, I don't really have much money to spend on more cards.
Asok_Green says... #2
Wow, there are a lot of cards in here I've never seen. Some of that is because they're just new and I'm so out of touch with the new stuff I might as well be living under a rock. But some of it's just great and being used in a clever way. Like Indentured Djinn. He's a cheap 4/4 flyer and it comes with (what would normally be seen as) a big drawback, in that it gives all your opponents card advantage, but you're turning card advantage into a liability! That's my favorite thing to see, disadvantage turned into opportunity.
April 17, 2015 5:22 p.m.