Suns champion is terrible in modern be tokens. Never use suns champion.
May 2, 2015 8:38 p.m.
AndWelcomeToTheJam says... #3
I agree with above. Sun's Champion is way too slow for the format you're trying to go against. Beating a quick Modern deck is hard enough with Tokens; you won't be doing any real damage until turn 3 at the very earliest. The Token game really kicks in on Turn 4, when your dudes can swing (Lingering Souls or Spectral Procession on Turn 3). This is also the turn where you die to a Burn or some other combo deck. Therefore, if you run any planeswalker, I would suggest Sorin, Solemn Visitor, as he can buff your tokens on Turn 4 when it matters, while gaining you the life you may need to survive 1 more turn. However, if you're still deciding on using an Elspeth, I would pick Knight-Errant.
May 3, 2015 4:08 a.m.
AndWelcomeToTheJam says... #4
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May 3, 2015 4:11 a.m.
Knight errant is better in a non blossom list, solemn visitor is better in a blossom list. If you have lots of burn, solemn visitor might be better regardless though.
May 3, 2015 11:30 a.m.
xenith4127 says... #6
I will have to consider it. I do see some burn, just not lots.
May 3, 2015 7:27 p.m.
xenith4127 says... #8
it is a little out of my price range currently, but it was a great suggestion and one that I will still consider. Thank you very much!
May 7, 2015 9:20 a.m.
xenith4127 says... #10
I have tested it, and I think it is just my luck that is bad, but I never seem to draw it at a late point in the game. I will continue testing and post my results.
May 22, 2015 1:52 p.m.
Your main deck looks pretty good. For your side deck, I would replace the Burrenton Forge-Tender with Kor Firewalker. He's mitigates damage from their spells and he can swing with impunity.
Nice deck.
May 29, 2015 9:24 a.m.
xenith4127 says... #12
I will have to get my hands on a couple of them. Honestly, I forget that card exists most of the time. Thank you for the suggestion!
May 29, 2015 9:26 a.m.
Pretty solid build. I do not know about your experience with the burn match up, but mine is not really good. For the burn reasons and maybe because of some quick aggro decks, I would consider adding 1-2 copies of Timely Reinforcements to the sideboard and maybe 1 single copy of Sorin, Solemn Visitor to the main board. Even though I am running a different build of B/W Tokens than you are I still find these two cards very good in a token deck. But it all depends on your meta.
June 6, 2015 12:51 p.m.
xenith4127 says... #14
yeah, I actually see very little burn, sometimes none. Which is part of the reason you see so little against it. I also cannot get my hands on any sorins, unfortunately, otherwise I would most likely be running 1 of him. Thank you for the suggestions!
June 6, 2015 12:56 p.m.
xenith4127 says... #16
while it is a form of anthem, I feel it is too situational. in an earlier version of the deck I tried it out, and was not as impressed with it as I am with honor and intangible virtue. I do think it is a good suggestion as like a sideboard against burn possibly. Thank you for the card suggestion.
June 12, 2015 11:35 a.m.
xenith4127 welcome ;)
plus, i suggest -3 Tidehollow Sculler and +3 Castigate, much more effective because as a creature, is not a big deal, to my mind
June 13, 2015 3:47 a.m.
check mine out though,
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/bw-token-aggro-budget/
June 13, 2015 4:15 a.m.
xenith4127 says... #19
oddly enough, the actually suggested castigate to another person on this site the other day. In this case though, I think that the sculler is better, if only because it gives me another creature, and some hand disruption. I know it dies to like everything, but so do most creatures in modern.
June 13, 2015 8:11 a.m.
RamblinMan says... #20
I'd replace the Scullers with Auriok Champion. I'd replace one Elspeth with Sorin, Solemn Visitor. I'd drop Brimaz for one Hero of Bladehold (way better IMO) and one Foul-Tongue Shriek. Then I'd drop the two Honors for a couple of Bitterblossom.
xenith4127 says... #1
perhaps in some cases, but at the same time the ulti on knight-errant is devastating to people who board stuff against tokens, because the way most people beat them just became useless. I can see what you are saying, and I have actually been intending on adding in suns champion and using both.
May 2, 2015 8:27 p.m.