The Western Way of War

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muse4756 says... #1

I wouldnt run 4 DoJ due to it wiping your board also. However, if you have 2 knight exemplars out then it wont matter. hard to due but i would cut the DoJ to 2 and run sword of body and minds. Combind the swords with brave the elements...yup

January 17, 2011 1:13 a.m.

jmz says... #2

Whispersilk Cloak idea is pretty nice. I would put two of them in the main and take out 2 Day of Judgment . Goodluck with this deck.

January 17, 2011 2:13 a.m.

Thank you for the comments! Changes have been made accordingly. I would have added the Sword of Body and Mind but the whispersilk cloak idea is more enticing (especially equipped to a Hero of Bladehold). Depending on how artifact-heavy this next set goes, I may forgo the brave the elements for another 2 cloaks and some swords.

I will be playing Leafs_Suck with this deck, and hoping to smash some infect players, so hopefully it runs well! Any further comments/criticism are also welcome.

January 27, 2011 3:11 p.m.

Kurzucik says... #4

Ever thought of putting the 2x White Knight in sideboard and 2x Kemba's Skyguard in main deck? I think if I'd run this deck, which I probably will since I want a Scars block WW deck, I'd probably make that switch.

January 27, 2011 3:34 p.m.

I was definitely tempted to put in some Kembas (i did in my previous knights deck) but the new leonin skyhunter is basically the same thing (except you dont pay one more mana to gain 2 health). I also stuck with the white knights for the prot. from black, as well as the first strike bonus (less knights now seem to have first strike). But we will see! Thank you for the comment :) I hope this deck works for you!

January 27, 2011 4:26 p.m.

blindestman says... #6

Phyrexian Rebirth is much worse than Day of Judgment . It is more than likely that the one creature you get will be controlled. So you end up paying two more mana or not having enough when you might need it. For instance if you end up drawing the buff end of your deck as opposed to the creatures. DoJ works well in white weenie buff decks because you can spend your first turns playing out your buff instead of creatures, wipe the board and start laying into your opponent.

February 2, 2011 2:37 a.m.

Thanks man, I actually never looked at it that way, I think I'll switch back to the Day of Judgment . The 6cmc is also a bit uncomfortable, especially for a white weenie deck.

I really want to get the card:Accorder's Shield into this deck. Obviously the battlecry + Brave the Elements (or Whispersilk Cloak ) combo works very well, but I want a knight to be able to hang back with vigilance (as well as an added +0/3 bonus) in case i'm nuked with an infect drop or a fattie with haste.

Only 10 of the 26 creatures have first strike though, so maybe would it be better to include an equipment of some sort with first strike? I was thinking of either Viridian Claw or Sword of Vengeance .

This deck with 4 Sword of Body and Mind , 4 Sword of Vengeance and 4 card:Accorder's Shield in it would also be awesome.

Comments or suggestions?

February 5, 2011 5:24 a.m.

PJN says... #8

I run a similar deck you don't need so many copies of the equipment use Stoneforge Mystic and just cheat them out quicker instead leaving more room for creatures.

February 7, 2011 2:17 p.m.

Savage1988 says... #9

what would do great for your mana curve and general game, is replacing the Armored Ascension

(which is too costly for a fast deck, and if you don't have an exemplar out they'll kill your knight while you try to enchant him which would be a 2-1 for them)

with Honor of the Pure , which will give all but your measly tiny creatures a bonus, which will be hard to remove.

Your curve would be moved the exact right way, if you take the suggestion, it will move from 6-8-10 in your 2, 3 and 4 cmc slots, to a FAR better 10-8-6. Most people don't take their manacurve into account, which disturbs the 'flow'.

hope this helps, i really mean the suggestion, and it's almost mandatory xD

better yet, i'll +1 if you do ;)

February 8, 2011 10:08 a.m.

haha, alright alright, i see your point. And you're right, I hadn't really considered my mana curve beyond the bladeholds.. i've also been itching to put Honor of the Pure back in anyways. It just belongs.

February 8, 2011 11:27 a.m.

Savage1988 says... #11

good boy, +1 from me ;) also, you might want to change the White Knight s for 2 more Accorder Paladin s, the white knights belong in the SB imo, unless your meta is heavy on black.

February 8, 2011 12:05 p.m.

Made some adjustments to the SB, took out -3 smite for +3 white knight, and -4 nimbus wings for +4 accorders shield. Im still a bit torn on the wings for SB, they are great for anti-air as well as giving you some leverage with flying. Unfortunately, they aren't really as permanent as something like spidersilk net.

I'm kind of torn on this, but the Accorder's shield just seems like a better fit. Especially if he can be equipped by his owner, Accorder Paladin ;)

February 8, 2011 6:13 p.m.

Should i run +4 signal pest with -2 eland umbra and -2 DoJ, or leave it as is? With the extra auras and board sweeps, i have greater control over opponent creature removal, as well as buffing up weaker kinghts (i.e. accorder paladin) or protecting critical knights, such as knight exemplar. If knight exemplar is covered with additions to her health AND creature removals, this deck is hard to take down. Not to mention running a DoJ with one creature holding an umbra, or even just one exemplar holding one while shielding all others.

February 8, 2011 8:23 p.m.

Nightwielder says... #14

One of the best knight decks I've seen, +1!

February 16, 2011 4:53 a.m.

Savage1988 says... #15

yeah dude, this looks like a proper knight deck!

you might want to update the description though :P

Have you tested it yet?

February 16, 2011 5:08 a.m.

thanks man! funny enough i was also looking at your angels and artifacts deck, which also looks ballin. I was gonna mention to maybe move your Revoke Existence s from SB to main, since it looks like alot of your nice drops have the chance of being controlled. I +1'd it nonetheless.

Thanks for the props everyone! One of the difficulties this deck suffers from is anti-air and first strike against infect creatures. I thought that a few Bladed Pinions in the SB would fix this, but I am still unsure.

February 16, 2011 5:08 a.m.

Nightwielder says... #17

Firstly, thanks to you too! Secondly, 12 of your knights have first strike from the get-go (or with a small level up), so you have a good chance to pull a couple early game. If flying is your concern, you can't go wrong with an Armored Ascension or two.

February 16, 2011 5:28 a.m.

Well, I must admit I have definitely considered the Armored Ascension s, but I was advised earlier that enchanting a creature with a 4cmc aura will likely make it an instant target for removal, which is a 2 for 1 for them because i've lost my mana for that turn.

Also, the battle-cry cards in this deck (notably Accorder Paladin and Hero of Bladehold ) are the most ideal cards for attacking with since they mass up damage, but they have little protection for themselves (with strong power but little toughness). I thought that thats where the Bladed Pinions come in, giving them the pre-emptive defense from first stike, while also solving the aformentioned flying problem. Further, i can even cross-equip the Bladed Pinions among my creatures as I need, since its a flexible equipment rather than BoE enchantment.

February 16, 2011 5:42 a.m.

Nightwielder says... #19

Yeah, that's true I see your point. The Bladed Pinions seem pretty versatile for this deck, and it's nice that equipment doesn't die. I say go for it and see how well it works. If you wanted to get really crazy, you could add the Sword of Feast and Famine to dual wield with your knights!

February 16, 2011 6:03 a.m.

Haha yeah! I am trying to trade Leafs_Suck, one of the editors on this site, for one. The untapping of the lands would be great for the Mystifying Maze s, which helps eliminate the need for vigilance :)

February 16, 2011 6:39 a.m.

@jessetaverne description is updated. I have playtested it against a few of my other decks, as well as Leafs_suck's snow white decks, and it hasn't failed me yet :)

February 16, 2011 6:47 a.m.

Deco_y says... #22

This deck is pretty beast, playtested a few times and this deck is starting to get really impressive.

March 1, 2011 2:47 a.m.

Deco_y says... #23

P.S. I still don't like the swords in this deck. You should look into putting in faster cards or cards that let you whallop quicker.

March 1, 2011 2:49 a.m.

yeah man ive been thinking of doing that too, they kind of seem to have a bit of disconnect with the rest of the deck, although the color prot and mill has been useful,

I was thinking of adding either 1x Plains , 1x Signal Pest and 2x Ajani Goldmane , OR just adding 4x Hyena Umbra , because they kick ass and their features (+1/+1, first strike, and totem armor for Doom Blade or Go for the Throat ) are infinitely useful to the deck's synergy.

Opinions?

March 1, 2011 3:51 p.m.

Nightwielder says... #25

The Hyena Umbra s have pretty good synergy here with the rest of your deck, good choice. Have you considered tossing in a singleton True Conviction for your mainboard? It looks like it would fit right in. Also, I would run 3 or 4x White Knight s in place of your Signal Pest s for a couple reasons...

1.) I hate those pesky pests. 2.) The White Knights are 'knights', come standard with first strike, and protection from black! I don't necessarily subscribe to the idea of having these stay exclusive to the sideboard because they're still cheap for 2/2s with first strike. Protection from black is just an added perk.

March 1, 2011 6:45 p.m.

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