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Legacy Hellsing

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November 18, 2013 3:08 p.m.

Hellsing says... #2

BootsToYourDome well Fanatic of Mogis does not feel right when I have very little devotion to use, Bonfire of the Damned can perhaps be in the sideboard, Increasing Vengeance is too tricky in this deck (had it before) and Past in Flames works better. Thunderous Wrath is absolutely out of place since if I does not topdeck it, then it is useless.

I'm considering replacing Chandra's Phoenix with Ball Lightning , what do you think about it? Should help Purphoros, God of the Forge to increase the chance of hitting fast and hard.

Otherwise, thank for the suggestions!

November 20, 2013 1:17 a.m.

zombiecelt says... #3

Have you considered Fire Servant ? it would only be two mana more than Chandra's Phoenix but double the effectiveness of say your Rift Bolt

November 20, 2013 3:06 p.m.

Hellsing says... #4

zombiecelt Fire servant feels a bit too costy, maybe Furnace of Rath , Pyromancer Ascension and Quest for Pure Flame would work better since they are all cheaper. Yet Fire Servant triggers Purphoros, God of the Forge and the enchantments does not.

November 20, 2013 4:28 p.m.

zombiecelt says... #5

masta_biomanca i see where you are coming from, the only drawback i could see with those is that Furnace of Rath hurts you too. but you should have enough chump blockers to keep that from happening. if you are trying to activate Purphoros, God of the Forge couldn't you use a Krenko, Mob Boss to much effect? he'll turn your Burn at the Stake into a mass field of overkill.

November 20, 2013 4:46 p.m.

DraXuS says... #6

Hi, I like your idea of a mono red tokendeck. If you intend to use your tokens to the fullest, I suggest Hellrider as a wincondition in addition to purphoros.

November 20, 2013 5:47 p.m.

Hellsing says... #7

yeah Hellrider is awesome the only problem is that I can't get hold of it right know, I will definitly use it when I have it.

November 21, 2013 1:07 a.m.

Blind_Guardian says... #8

Perhaps a card-by-card analysis?

January 16, 2015 4:41 p.m.

Didgeridooda says... #9

What is a ysis?

January 24, 2015 2:12 p.m.

I would run Eidolon of the Great Revel over Keldon Marauders and Flame Rift over Searing Blood main.

Your side should include 3-4x Ashen Rider for the S&T matchup. I prefer Faerie Macabre or Tormod's Crypt over Relic. Pyroblast or Red Elemental Blast should be considered. The 4CMC of Shatterstorm is hard to achieve. Smash to Smithereens or Destructive Revelry is better. Lastly, Blood Moon can very much be a hoser pending your meta.

January 26, 2015 7:56 p.m.

Hellsing says... #11

aeonstoremyliver Thanks for all the input!
Well I haven't worked on the sideboard very much but everything you say makes sense. And actually I got a Blood Moon on the mail today so that one was already planned to be included in the sideboard, and Searing Blood was something I throwed in recently but Flame Rift will probably preform better. The only thing I'm uncertain of is Eidolon of the Great Revel.

January 26, 2015 8:10 p.m.

mattrva77 says... #12

I would suggest not playing the fetches. I know the reasoning behind it, and I hate when people talk about "Deck thinning isn't real blah blah blah" -- I mean, if you fetch a mountain, that's one less mountain in your deck you could draw... period.

THAT SAID, one of Burn's strongest points in Legacy is that it is difficult for your opponent to disrupt. The "Counterbalance-at-1 and Top lock" is about the only thing that really is an absolute unwinnable situation, and the deck is resistant to most disruption played in the format. Someone takes 2 life and gets rid of ONE of your burn spells? That's not a bad deal over the bolt they just took, since it cost them a mana too. You know how it is.

SO... the reason not to run fetches is to get around Stifle. It may not seem like much, but it can be huge. And this is a deck that really doesn't need anything but good ol' Mountains.

This is coming from someone who has been playing Burn in some form or another since '94 off and on... and plays a VERY similar deck to this in Legacy currently :)

Just my 2 cents! Also, Eidolon of the Great Revel is a much better 2-drop over Marauders, IMO. I made that switch a few months back.

May 1, 2015 2:43 p.m.

Hellsing says... #13

Hmmm I probably will exchange the marauders for the eidolons but regarding removing fetches, I'm a bit more uncertain of that. Well first they provide extra meat for grim lavamancer, if you get into some sort of standstill.
Secondly I know very well that stifle can be a major threat in some situations but according to mtgtop8 "only" 10.8% of all legacy decks plays it. Lastly I would like to point out that the main part of the people at my lgs plays standard so I get to play very rarely with this deck. And the few decks I have encountered hasn't used stifle so for now I don't see how I can really motivate the change to remove the fetches. And if I did would it then be wise to use some complement land as Barbarian Ring?

May 1, 2015 3:24 p.m.

mattrva77 says... #14

I hadn't thought about the impact of fetches on Lavamancer fuel -- I actually don't run him CURRENTLY. He's been in and out a few times over the years though, no doubt.

With that in mind, hell... keep runnin' em unless you start to run into Stifle all the time. I play on Magic Online a whole lot, and in my area people were REALLY into Conspiracy (which had Stifle reprinted) -- so I run into that card a lot.

As for Barbarian Ring.. I really can't recommend ANY lands you can't pitch to Fireblast (or lands that fetch lands which you can haha). People have experimented with that before, and CONSISTENCY is really what makes burn tick. Just like, people were running Thunderous Wrath and Vexing Devil when Innistrad block came out... Those cards may work in Modern, but in Legacy you don't want ANYTHING that's not a good top deck when your opponent is at 3 and wins next turn.

May 1, 2015 5:35 p.m.

CommanderNeyo says... #15

I am thinking that four Fireblasts is a little bold, maybe cut one for a Monastery Swiftspear?

September 18, 2017 3:13 p.m.

Hellsing says... #16

CommanderNeyo will consider it. I have tried to decide if I should replace Grim Lavamancer with Monastery Swiftspear but idk.

September 18, 2017 4:42 p.m.

Trizzo2 says... #17

I would replace Eidolon of the Great Revel with Monastery Swiftspear, since it seems like the Eidolon deals more damage to you than your opponent. Nice deck!

September 18, 2017 7:53 p.m.

Hellsing says... #18

Trizzo2 nope removing eidolon wont happen, it's just too good in legacy against all low cmc spells. instead i removed 1 flame rift, 1 lavamancer, and moved vortex to sideboard, gonna se how this works out.

September 25, 2017 9:48 a.m.

Trizzo2 says... #19

alright, cool

September 25, 2017 8:16 p.m.

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