I completely missed Vicious Shadows. That is a nice card but I wouldnt rely on it as you move up into the competitive scene. It seems the more competitive decks run even less creatures. Most of the top tier decks are combo heavy and focus on spells rather then creatures. Though I have seen a yisan deck play infinite mana and draw and cast every creature they had. I am guessing your meta has a lot more creature decks.

As you are only running 3 creatures, it is not going to give you the most effect.

I am all fine with using lesser cards as place holders. Thran Dynamo is my place holder for Mana Crypt and Temple of the False God is the place holder for Ancient Tomb.

land tax does have a great synergy with scroll rack, i cannot deny that. But that is as long as you ahev a shuffle effect or you continually have less lands then everyone. You dont want to lock your draws out.

I also like that you only run 3 creatures, I run 8 creatures and at times I think it is too many.

if you are worried about tokens deck then run Lightmine Field. It will prevent them from attacking at all.

Also I just noticed, why isnt Greater Auramancy in your deck, it lets you protect the enchantments you want to keep

Azor's Elocutors is a niche card. It has its place in certain metas but cEDH is not one of them. It is easily removed since it is a creature and the mana cost is too high to put it out early enough with protection.

I also might run a Leyline of Anticipation. Give your stuff flash so you can protect it longer and use it right away.

Thought Lash is not a card you want to keep and try to combo with. It is very iffy at best and you have to have that and lab maniac make it all the way back to you again.

A combination I do like is Enchanted Evening and Aura Thief. As it protects itself in the way that if they kill it, I get the whole board.

I built my deck around not helping anyone, so I dont run cards like temple bell or fevered visions.

if you want a card to stop combo decks then use Mana Maze. Great card for two mana.

I also use to run Solitary Confinement, but realized I never worried about spells targeting me. If someone combos usually its an all players die kind of thing. I replaced mine with Island Sanctuary. It gives me the option to skip my draw step or not.

What do you use your Sun Titan for. What value does it work for you and what is your usual target. A good replacement for that could be Consecrated Sphinx

Lightning Greaves is far better then swift foot boots. There is also this card Spiritual Asylum if you have protection for your enchantments then this will work perfectly.

You can always run Null Rod also and that shuts down memnarch completely.

He is going to hate your improved zedruu deck. Especially when he cannot do anything.

Question - did you ever manage to get Deflecting Palm to work?

I haven't gotten to use it yet but it's just such an awesome card (both the art and the effect) that I just had to stick it in my Zedruu deck : was surprised to see it in someone else's.

I'm driving right now. I'll take a look once I am able

Its getting better. A card I really like is Form of the Dragon I think is better than the idol, as the idol does two damage but you are never going to win with it. It is just an annoyance th 40 life doesn't do much.

Humble Defector is another card I don't really like. yes I see it in lot of zedruu builds but if you are playing competitive zedruu, I don't think it is worth it. IT gives you two cards but then helps out your opponentAnd more than likely they will use it and just give it ba to you so you don't get any extra advantage out of it.

I would add cards like Arcane Laboratory or Rule of Law. AS your does not care if you cast more than one spell a turn. while every combo player will hate you.

I do like this build better than the last one though. Keep it up fellow zedruu player

ZomBee_Hunt- Thanks for the feedback!

I used to have Form of the Dragon in here, but I took it out for whatever reason. I'll put it back in here.

You make a good point with the defector. I'll see what I can replace it with.

I really like both Rule of Law and Arcane Laboratory. They will find their way in here at some point.

I know Enduring Ideal is super high impact. I was wondering what enchantments I should run to make sure it will lock the board and win me a game.

well if you have Hive Mind on board already and cast Enduring Ideal that should guarantee the win. First two cards I would get though are Arcane Laboratory and Possibility Storm. Those lock all players out of the game from casting spells anymore. But you get to keep using Enduring Ideal as it puts a copy on the stack and you are not casting it. if you get that out and there is no threats then you can get Luminarch Ascension and start getting some cratures. Also you can get Form of the Dragon and give it away. Hell you can attack with Zedruu commander damage depending on what the board looks like. Stranglehold would be a good one to keep those from searching for answers to stop you. Once you have enough enchantments you can get Opalescence then you use Homeward Path to get back everything you gave away and swing with a ton of enchantments.

ZomBee_Hunt - nice!

I'll make a list of all of the cards I plan on getting, and I'll keep you updated. I appreciate the help!

No problem, I love zedruu the greathearted and feel she is under rated than most people think.

Love-in-Theory I have revamped my deck a little and took some things out and put some in. if you want to check it out.

btw have you seen any other competitive zedruu decks. Doesn't seem to be very many running around.

I added the Rest in Peace + Helm of Obedience combo in it. As it is easily tutorable and worse case rest in peace does work on some decks.

I added Mana Crypt to replace Thran Dynamo

Weathered Wayfarer to replace Solemn Simulacrum. Weathered is faster and gets us any land we need. a 4 drop we would rather play something in that place.

I added Worship as it is great against any creature heavy agro deck. most of the time we will at least have 1 creature on board.

Sphere of Resistance slows combo decks down as they are usually on point or the exact mana they need.

Stony Silence shuts down most artifact heavy decks.

Well take a look at let me know what you think. I cut my average CMC down to 3.06 from a 3.6.

ZomBee_Hunt-

I've never seen Helm of Obedience before, that combo will hit hard. Rest in Peace is super useful in my meta.

Weathered Wayfarer is great at grabbing that land you need,

I really like the Worship and Stony Silence.

It looks good overall

Looks well thought out. I see quite a few synergies that have much thought put behind it. I like it.

If I may, I'd like to recommend a very underused card in pillowfort/control/stax decks: Equipoise. The card reads a bit awkwardly, but to simplify it, you choose all of each type to phase out (exiled until next untap phase) in excess to what you currently control. Almost like a Ward of Bones or Damping Engine but cooler for a few reasons: it bypasses targeting the permanents, deals with threats and wincons, and allows you to choose what temporarily disappears rather than an overall limiter. Equipoise targets the player, so Witchbane Orb directly counters it, but you could essentially exile any shroud or hexproof permanents until the next untap phase.

Why suggest this? Well... it fits the theme almost perfectly. You run the low count of 11 artifacts, 4 creatures, and no ramping spells to be superior in land count (plus you got all them bounce lands). The only permanents it excludes is the ones you run most of. Also, I believe that due to you choosing what phases out, you could in-Theory exile everything you don't own that your opponent controls to gain maximum synergy with Zedruu the Greathearted. And before I forget, let's say you may end up needing a land/creature/artifact that you lent your opponent, you can phase it out to get it back on your opponent's next untap phase. The ultimate control card for this type of deck if you ask me. But you didn't... so... I'm just going to stop rambling.

Eiti3- Thank you for taking the time to look the deck over!

Equipoise will definitely be going in here as soon as I get my hands on one. It would be perfect in here, I never even knew it existed. (New to playing Pillowfort/Control/Stax (blue lol))

If you have any more suggestions or recommendations on what you think could improve on this deck, I'd love to hear it!

Thanks!

Eiti3- also, I'm terrible at figuring out what cards to cut. If you have any idea, it would be greatly appreciated.

Oh noes. I admit, so am I... horrible at cutting cards that is. To be perfectly honest, I don't feel comfortable telling others what they should cut as I know I'm not the best at deciding what should be in a deck I haven't played countless times (including my own sometimes). However, I can offer a piece of advice when it comes to cutting cards: When playing, try to notice cards that stick in your hand far too long or aren't too pleased about drawing. Eventually, they will find play and take note how well they helped your gameplay. There's always 1-4 cards in every EDH deck that are like this, and only the owner of the deck can figure them out. I'd recommend cutting one, if not all, of those cards to add in new additions and experiments.