This Is Gonna Hurt (Read descrip update)
Standard*
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You could get some use out of Past in Flames in this deck
September 30, 2012 11:25 p.m.
Khughes496 says... #3
Sorry, Geoxis, I wiped comments before I could read yours :/ Can you say again?
September 30, 2012 11:44 p.m.
Do you really have you heart set on Rakdos Cackler ? How about Blistercoil Weird ?Also like myself I see you've taken Guttersnipe out of the main board. I just don't think he's going to be as good as we thought he would be. A 2/2 that will be protected, not try to block or attack and will be, in any meta easily removable by any color. If thought of that way, he is more a card liability than a plus.
September 30, 2012 11:55 p.m.
Khughes496 says... #5
I would prefer the Rakdos Cackler just for some early game "First turn, I'll play a 2/2 and intimidate you into blocking with your 1/1 and kill it" kind of an idea, but I know it probably won't play out that way a lot. Blistercoil Weird ... Idk. Seems just as situational as the Cackler. Maybe it's better with it's untapping and growing flexibility. I'll test it out and see how it runs. I'd definitely be more motivated to try it out if I had more instants to play on their turn for the untap.
October 1, 2012 12:01 a.m.
slowtyper77 says... #6
Don't really like Cryptborn Horror . Seemed more like a dead card in hand most of the time. I mean, T1 Rakdos Cackler , T2 Ash Zealot , generally t3 ends up being Flames of the Firebrand or something, because by then they will have blockers. If for some reason they have absolutely no board presence yet, and you manage to hit for 4, you get a 3 Mana 4/4, which isn't bad. But thats generally the best it will be, which is hardly better than Loxodon Smiter . Maybe try something like Lightning Mauler ? Or maybe that's just redundant with the haste you already have. card:Krenko's Command has ok synergy with Hellrider if you want to try that.
Also, I think Wild Guess is OK, but not great. That is because the deck is so fast, I would almost want to always burn with the mana I have to remove blockers, or drop a creature. The games generally didn't last long enough to warrant the discarding of extra mountains, as I was usually playing a land per turn and playing threats. Overall the only thing I would want to discard to Wild Guess would be another copy of itself, and this would only be in situations where I had nothing else to play. But if the cards were actual threats, then I wouldn't have that problem anyways.
October 1, 2012 9:07 a.m.
i would put in Mizzium Mortars . the card has good early game removal potential, 4 damage for 2 mana, which is better than the 3 damage for 2 mana Searing Spear , but the overload cost makes it a great late game sweeper, which you may need because i feel like this deck may run into problems if your opponent managed to draw the game out (which is unlikely but still). true Searing Spear has the added bonus of dealing damage to the player, but in a deck where your creature curve hovers at about two, dealing damage to a player shouldn't really be a problem. i think i would take out a Cryptborn Horror , Wild Guess , and a Mountain for 3 Mizzium Mortars .
i would also consider taking out the remaining 2 Cryptborn Horror for 2 Rakdos Shred-Freak . i get the horrors appeal, but i think that the shred-freak will tend to deal more damage for you
October 1, 2012 10:43 a.m.
Khughes496 says... #8
I do enjoy using Searing Spear on people on occasion, but yes, I figured I'd wind up using Mizzium Mortars . I only really had Wild Guess in for things like getting friggin' Stromkirk Noble s and Rakdos Cackler s late game. I also figured that would slow me down, though. Thanks for the suggestions, guys. I get a little uneasy about 22 Mountain xD so I'm not gonna play with that right now, but I will trade Cryptborn Horror s and Wild Guess es out for Mizzium Mortars and Rakdos Shred-Freak s.
It will probably eat at me seeing a higher 2 in the mana curve than 1, though :/
I may try the card:Krenko's Command over Rakdos Shred-Freak s to aid the Hellriders, and I'm goign to throw a 4th Hellrider back in since I'm running more lower casts to help it.............. Anyone think Thatcher Revolt would work better than card:Krenko's Command? Probably not if they're not permanent.
October 1, 2012 2:09 p.m.
also, 34 Flames of the Firebrand ? seems a bit excessivealso a bit illegal
October 1, 2012 3:35 p.m.
Khughes496 says... #13
More or less trying to make this a deck I can actually afford :/
When I get the money for Bonfire of the Damned I will have it.
October 1, 2012 3:35 p.m.
Khughes496 says... #14
look again.... it was a typo that was up for maybe 5 seconds...
October 1, 2012 3:36 p.m.
slowtyper77 says... #15
Like the changes! And yeah if a deck can support it Bonfire of the Damned is always good, but obviously it is not the greatest option for those low on money.
October 1, 2012 4:49 p.m.
Khughes496 says... #16
Thank ya :]Yeh. I'm waiting for holiday gift money for maybe 1 or 2 :P
October 1, 2012 8:24 p.m.
squidinspace says... #17
Vexing Devil ? In a RDW no matter what your opponent chooses it should work out for you.
October 4, 2012 3:17 a.m.
Khughes496 says... #18
Yeahh... been kinda thinking Stromkirk Noble s don't fit much.
October 4, 2012 3:21 a.m.
Mizzium Mortars good substitute for Flames of the Firebrand i think other than that a decent cheap deck has some potential.... Faithless lootings would be a nice addition also with the decks i have seen you need a good way to really deal with trostani resto thragtusk combonations bc you have no current manor upon which to truly stop that life gain
October 10, 2012 2:45 a.m.
shinobigarth says... #20
with that many instant and sorcs you really need Guttersnipe on the starting lineup. put Flames of the Firebrand on the bench. put 4 Gutters out there so they can snipe fools! its tacking on an extra 2 damage every time you punch your opponent or one of his guys in the jaw.
also moar Mizzium Mortars
October 14, 2012 3:40 a.m.
Alvn_isnt_Low says... #21
It'd make a great 4-Drop and also fits the "haste" theme... And who doesn't love stealing a creature for a turn.
October 14, 2012 4:10 a.m.
Khughes496 says... #22
Mizzium Mortars is expensive D; Only reason I have Bonfire of the Damned is cuz I managed to trade for 2 of them. I'll try to get some. This is my deck currently. Not a fan of Traitorous Instinct because getting an actual good creature to steal is really circumstantial :/
I will try Guttersnipe out again. Maybe it'll be better with a trade for Flames of the Firebrand
October 14, 2012 4:21 a.m.
thebeardedshuffler says... #23
How about replacing Thunderous Wrath with Burn at the Stake ? It breaks control, ruins enchantment decks, and is a great "win out of nowhere" card. I dislike wrath because if you don't wanna play it when you draw it, or you start with it in hand, it's useless to you until 6 mana. Yes you can pitch it with filter cards but look at it this way: you only need to filter when you have bad cards in hand, so why play bad cards?
October 14, 2012 2:10 p.m.
Alvn_isnt_Low says... #24
With Traitorous Instinct you dont need to steal an "actual good creature"... it doesnt need to be a great creature. whatever creature you take it gets buffed and its also one less blocker... and if you can, its in your best interest to kill the creature so that your opponent doesnt get it back.
But to each their own... just my suggestion.
October 14, 2012 6:43 p.m.
Khughes496 says... #25
I also don't like the card.... And I MIGHT consider Burn at the Stake over Thundermaw and maybe to replace Thunderous Wrath but idk. Never been a huge fan of it. I'll test it.
Khughes496 says... #1
I hate having a up-down mana curve -_- Anyone know the best fix for this? 2x Thundermaw Hellkite maybe? take out.... 2x Thunderbolt ? Going to try that, ideas are open for better ideas.
September 30, 2012 11:07 p.m.