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Uncanny_Ghoul says... #2
Jacklouse Thanks I did add By Force to the sideboard.
May 11, 2017 10:02 a.m.
Hi again, thanks for answering, also i have another idea, the thing is Bloodrage Brawler would work wonders here since it is a 4/3 for 2 and forces you to discard lettinh the combos flow with no trouble.
May 14, 2017 9:45 a.m.
Uncanny_Ghoul says... #4
Jacklouse I do agree that card is bonker, But sadly I don't see it fitting anywhere in the deck Unless I want to discard a card with 0 effect.
I can't play it on turn 2 and the only cards I can cast with it is Fiery Temper or Alms of the Vein.
Sadly, Turn 3, I already have Bloodhall Priest and Olivia that I would rather play over this.
Also at 2 CMC Furyblade Vampire allows discard whenever I attack & Heir of Falkenrath Flip works wonder for a free instand madness anywhen.
May 14, 2017 11:09 a.m.
YamishiTheWickedOne says... #5
May I just say that even as a Modern player, Heir of Falkenrath Flip is crazy. She's not quite Delver of Secrets Flip but she's not very far off. In a madness deck she's arguably better despite being 2 cmc for the same stats, due to fueling the engine. That's my comparison. Heir is almost Delver.
May 14, 2017 12:27 p.m.
YamishiTheWickedOne says... #6
Alms of the vein sucks btw. And not the good kind of suck either. In terms of board/hand state it does nothing.
May 14, 2017 1:18 p.m.
Uncanny_Ghoul says... #7
YamishiTheWickedOne Any idea what I could replace the alms for? More control maybe?
May 14, 2017 2:07 p.m.
Maybe yo can take out the 3 Alms of the Vein in your main and put one more Olivia, one Key to the City and a Call the Bloodline to increase the draw chance. Also you can take out the one in Alms of the Vein and the Key to the City for two Dispossess when against aetherworks decks or Scarab Feast if the opponent uses Torrential Gearhulk and recovers Glimmer of Genius or counter instants.
May 14, 2017 4:49 p.m.
YamishiTheWickedOne says... #9
Call the bloodline is terrible. That card looks incredible on paper but in practice it's too slow and accomplishes too little. Are there any more duals you can add? In my test hands of this I found myself starved for red. Is Geier Reach Sanitarium still standard?
May 14, 2017 11:27 p.m.
What are your thoughts about a Vampire madness deck including Archfiend of Ifnir ?
May 30, 2017 12:13 p.m.
Uncanny_Ghoul says... #11
MrLomin For longer matchups it might be good, but vampire decks are mostly aggro with ways to cheat creatures in with madness. I feel like it's either too slow to be worth anything.
If your opponent has more creatures than you do, there you're doing something wrong.The longer the game goes on the lower your winning chances goes.
The only card I could see it replacing is : Voldaren Pariah
May 30, 2017 1:57 p.m.
Filipp_bor says... #13
Hello! Really like your deck, but how it play in modern? Or what I can add to play that in modern, what do you think?
June 1, 2017 10:16 a.m.
Uncanny_Ghoul says... #14
Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip instead of Key to the City. (of the veil if you are open budget)
Vampire Nocturnus x2 instead of Voldaren Pariah
Stromkirk Captain instead of Furyblade Vampire
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth / Cavern of Souls / Collective Brutality / Vampire Nighthawk Gatekeeper of Malakir are also great.
Vampires were never really big in modern and truth be told, you are better off with a vampire deck without the madness. It's much easier to play and much more efficient. It always feel like they are scared to print good madness cards because of instant cast speed.
June 1, 2017 11:01 a.m.
Filipp_bor says... #15
Right now I play with zombie modern deck, and really like how it can adapt to different situations. So I interest, do vampires in mtg can afford something like that)
June 2, 2017 1:07 a.m.
YamishiTheWickedOne says... #16
Good call replacing Alms for Judgment. That card actually does something useful. Again think about 1-2 Geier Reach Sanitarium. Are there any other Rakdos dual lands in standard currently?
June 2, 2017 3:03 a.m. Edited.
YamishiTheWickedOne says... #17
I'm not super well-versed in standard honestly. I'm site-famous here on tappedout for being the guy who made Modern vampires kind of a thing. The tribe is a fringe tier 2 or a rogue deck at best, though I don't play the madness version, instead opting for a rather Jund-esque tribal.
June 2, 2017 3:06 a.m.
Uncanny_Ghoul says... #18
YamishiTheWickedOne I think there's a fastland? but I'm not too fond of those.Never had a problem with my mana pool atm.
Also I'm thinking replacing the voldaren for something better, I've never got to use her anyway.Same thing with the key.
June 2, 2017 7:06 a.m.
YamishiTheWickedOne says... #19
You're probably on the right track replacing those. They look really nice on paper but the mana is a little steep, and mana's at such a premium in this deck. I mean key is really nice, but the Pariahs are just too slow and you already have ample creature hate. I feel like Pariah is more of an eternal format card where you have access to a ton of ways to get her out fast and spam out tokens or Bloodghasts. 3 mana for madness in standard is a little steep, whereas the modern variant drops madness Stromkirk Captains like it's nothing.
June 2, 2017 7:48 a.m.
Uncanny_Ghoul says... #20
I'm currently running Bloodmad Vampire instead of voldaren because I already had those
What do you think of Hazoret the Fervent instead of voldaren, it's pretty easy to drop to 1 card with this deck. although he seems a bit slow even with haste. Drana, Liberator of Malakir would work too.
Stensia Masquerade instead of Key seems nice.
What do you think?
June 2, 2017 10:26 a.m.
YamishiTheWickedOne says... #21
Drana's too slow. I'm not a fan of masquerade, little too much mana but go ahead and try it. I'd honestly say include bloodmads in the actual build. Though be aware he's pretty squishy and dies easily. Still 4 power for 2 mana is kinda huge.
June 2, 2017 3:28 p.m.
Uncanny_Ghoul says... #22
YamishiTheWickedOne I like the bloodmads, I feel like key are pretty strong with it tho, going to try bloodmads + key then Stensia and see how it works.
Thanks
June 2, 2017 5:07 p.m.
YamishiTheWickedOne says... #23
You know I think key is pretty good here after all. This deck looks way better now. It's pure aggro at this point.
Jacklouse says... #1
I like the look of this build however i think that Harsh Scrutiny might be excesive since the build does so much already and a mill/scry card does not follow the build so well, also you might want to get some mayor artifact removal like By Force or Dispossess since Mardu Veihcles is so popular and red damage might get short on the job.
May 11, 2017 8:33 a.m.