Fixed the stomping ground oversight. Right now I am testing prismatic lens to see if its worth a slot. Honestly, I just need more things that tap for blue. Thats why I have avoided the talisman and dumped spirit guide. Spirit guide tested well enough, but I cant use it twice like other rituals with yawgmoth's will so that seems bad to me in a deck that so frequently abuses yawgwin. Let me know how the dorks do for you. Btw LED is absolutely amazing in this build. I probably shouldn't be suprised but good call

enpc: Its definitely worth testing. I think it will often function as a mana comfluence, but the potential to get screwed may keep it out of the deck.

hows the playtest for this irl ? im curious kinda wanna build lol

So far pretty good. It has done much better than my Leo deck in my playgroup, but that is partially due to the fact that Leo is such a hate magnet. I personally think its the strongest deck I have ever made. The combos are very card slot friendly and fast and there are many different paths to victory so its hard to shut down the deck completely.

I love the idea! I'll add it to my primer folder!

Thank you. Happy brewing :-)

It's as early as T1, don't sell the isochron reversal short :D You gotta update that description to "wins any turn"

Mana Crypt, Mox Opal, Mana Vault, Dramatic reversal, Isochron Scepter

Play rocks, imprint scepter with reversal -> infinite mana. Mox opal taps for blue and then green -> Thrasios -> win

Bolsheviktory: You are absolutely correct good sir :-) Mea Culpa! I will ammend this disservice to the combo immediately.

False modesty doesn't suit me anyways lol I will copy and paste your comment into my desciption unless you object.

What do you all think of Training Grounds? It allows the Thrasios combo to go off real easy and makes him into a decent draw engine. Too cute?

By all means :D

I've been testing my own Thrasios: Thrasios Kydele Test and Training grounds has been very sweet. I will probably want to get black in there for tutors/ad naus/necro.

An interesting card I have been considering for Paradox Engine is Raven's Crime. It's ok disruption but it lets you pitch your lands to retrace and keep the engine going. Oona's Grace is another retrace spell that nets you cards.

Bolsheviktory: Your list is very good. I do agree that black tutors/ advantage is too good to pass up.

enpc: The retrace cards are very interesting. Being able to dump lands often comes in handy, unfortunately Thrasios doesn't bring any lands to hand. It gets bonus points for being castable from the graveyard. Raven's Crime is particularly useful since it allows us to get way ahead on mana with paradox engine.

So now another question. The thrasios+top+engine combo is proving to be pretty damn good. So adding more redundancy is something I want to do. Adding training grounds is one way I have built around the combo, however, I am also looking to add either Voltaic Key or Kiora's Follower. Key is an artifact so it doesnt have summoning sickness and it plus top and engine goes off for just 2 additional mana worth of rocks/dorks. The only issue is its just ok outside that capacity Follower has summoning sickness, but its the best possible 2 mana dork. It can tap for any color (most times) or up to 2-3 mana. It also can draw my deck with top+engine and just 1 mana worth of rocks/dorks. Thoughts?

lilbrudder ur a a$$ lol in good way lol i played this 5 times and havnt lost the amount of salt is real omg

Gimme food, gimme fries, gimme salad on the sides.

z2aaa: Muhahahahaha! I am glad to see you are continuing to spread misery my friend. Harvest some more salty tears for me.

Alright Voltaic Key is a winner. Kiora's Follower is winmore. As iamyoona made me realize with Zhur-Taa Druid, 2 drop mana dorks are unplayable for a build like this. I think the key to the early win with Engine is 0 drop artifacts. I am now testing Mishra's Bauble. It helps me get ahead on early card advantage with t1-2 wheels and triggers engine after I tap out to cast it so I can starm storming. It also makes my deck functionally smaller. It is always relevant and literally costs nothing.

Temur_Frontier: :-)

I won in the playtest by infinetly looping Regrowth and Noxious Revival worth mentioning in the primer?

Possibly. How did you do that? Thrasios scry 1+draw?

yup

Dunadain: Well then yes I will add it as it speaks to the versatility of Engine+Thrasios. Thank you for the insight :-)

lilbrudder y not exotic orchard

Because I cut it for a spell. It definitely needs to go back in. What land would you suggest I cut for it?

Forbiddon orchard or a pain land

Pursonal tutor?

I'll cut a pain land. Forbidden orchard has some combo potential and taps for all colors. Personal tutor is a bit too limited for this decks needs.

I would suggest Transmute Artifact over Fabricate. The latter is incredibly slow and limited in use. Transmute Artifact lets you start the combo when you cast it while Fabricate forces you to cast Paradox Engine out of hand. Given the amount of rocks in this list, sacrificing one isn't an issue from testing.

I think Tainted Pact is reasonable as it represents any card in your deck. Unlike how cEDH plays it, I like the versatility of answering hatebears with a sweeper or setting your combo up. I don't think this deck is fragile enough that it can't afford to lose a couple of pieces. I would consider it over Ponder or Dark Petition. I do like that you've chosen Dark Petition over Bring to Light in this list.

I'm surprised I'm going to say this since I think one drop dorks are the best ramp in the game but I think Llanowar Elves doesn't do too much for this list. Adding green mana in your list is even worse than mine since I run a couple green answers. It's effectively a Boreal Druid which I don't think you need.

I think running both Aetherflux Resovoir and Walking Ballista makes this list a bit clunky.

I like that you've cut Past in Flames but I think even Snapcaster Mage felt clunky and less useful in my testing.

From testing Training Grounds feels out of place. If you're comboing off, your list is more aggressively costed than and once I go off, it's hard near impossible to brick. If you're playing for the more midrange game, I like it alot. I think the card itself has a lot of value as it makes up for itself the turn you activate Thrasios, Triton Hero. Let me know how testing it goes.