To Drown the World in Death: Araumi EDH [PRIMER]
Commander / EDH
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Queso_Fresco says... #2
Another great addition would be Wurmcoil Engine! Bring back a few and make a ton of tokens.
December 14, 2020 4:32 p.m.
Daedalus19876 says... #3
Queso_Fresco: I tested Wurmcoil, actually! My conclusion was two-fold: first, Grave Titan is generally better than Wurmcoil, but the bigger issue is that a bunch of tokens doesn't actually WIN the game. You become the threat, but you haven't generated enough tokens to kill even one player in combat -- a threat without real teeth. Doesn't go super well.
December 14, 2020 5:51 p.m.
Crow_Umbra says... #4
Daedalus19876 I like your statement on Grave Titan and token creation, and becoming the threat. I currently run Broodbirth Viper in my Araumi list for a quick, splashy play, but have considered cutting it for similar reasons to your statement.
I play in fairly creature-heavy meta, so Syr Konrad has helped me machine-gun out damage, especially with all of the group-mill and wheel effects Araumi wants to run. I've considered running Fell Specter to add some more sting to discards and punish the Wheel strats in my meta, but it feels a bit win-more to me.
December 14, 2020 6:13 p.m.
Daedalus19876 says... #5
Crow-Umbra: Broodbirth draws 9 if all the copies hit -- not BAD, but we can draw 9 for 2 mana with Undead Augur/Floating-Dream Zubera. I'm completely spoiled, I don't want to pay 5 mana for the cards XD
The Fell Specter is an interesting idea, I'll think about that! It's a shame that it doesn't say "each player discard"... Still, I've cut the big discard effects here because my playgroup was PISSED about them.
December 14, 2020 6:30 p.m.
Crow_Umbra says... #6
I have a Locust God, Nekusar, & emerging Xyris in my meta. I dont think anyone really runs wheel-punishing effects yet. I've kept the wheels in both my Araumi & Vadrok decks, since they still seem fair game lol.
I also currently run Breathstealer's Crypt in my Araumi list alongside the Wheels. Another reason I'm considering Fell Specter.
December 14, 2020 8:28 p.m.
Love this list, simply incredible, you are one of my favorite deck builders, great job. Question, could Glasspool Mimic Flip be replaced with Phantasmal Image as they are the same?
December 15, 2020 10:38 a.m.
Daedalus19876 says... #8
MFBOOM: Yeah, they're pretty interchangeable. But I liked the fact that Glasspool Mimic Flip (sort of) takes up a land slot... And also, I already owned a copy XD Phantasmal Image is something I want to test but I don't own a copy yet.
December 15, 2020 12:53 p.m.
Daedalus19876 cool, i thought so. I am in the opposite boat as I have a Phantasmal Image just not the mimic, thank you great list again!
December 15, 2020 2:15 p.m.
is Intruder Alarm just not good here, it keeps popping into my brain as I am building my own Araumi list
December 16, 2020 8:38 a.m.
Daedalus19876 says... #11
MFBOOM: I messed with it, but the issue is that 1) I cannot recur it, 2) it only really works with my commander and I'm trying to reduce commander-reliance, and 3) I've played it enough times where it killed me because my opponent combo'd off. It's an option here, but not one I chose to explore?
December 16, 2020 10:10 a.m.
Im not sure if anyone else asked but what of Sower of Discord, go really good with this, with the amount of trickery it can do.
December 16, 2020 1:22 p.m.
Daedalus19876 says... #13
sam171z: I did test him, actually! You get the maximum total damage from "linking" each pair of opponents, and basically each opponent loses 18 life (6 from combat, 12 from damage dealt to your other opponents). The issue was that he doesn't really synergize with anything except for Araumi, and Archfiend of Despair is generally better (and he got cut for being unnecessary).
December 16, 2020 1:39 p.m.
ChickenBoy13 says... #15
Mirror Image works as another Glasspool Mimic Flip.
Nice deck, if a bit out of my budget range.
December 17, 2020 10:30 a.m.
ChickenBoy13 he has a budget version right underneath the primer :)
December 17, 2020 10:53 a.m.
Crow_Umbra says... #17
Maybe it was in an archived comment, but what are your thoughts on Sepulchral Primordial? I have a couple copies, and have considered it for my own list. Encoring it seems nuts, and stealing potentially 3 creatures on hard cast or reanimation seems decent, but too dependent on opponents having stuff there to begin with.
December 17, 2020 12:28 p.m.
VorelNailo says... #18
Kind of a rhetorical question: what happens if you gained control of a Teferi, Time Raveler? Can you encore at instant speed?
December 17, 2020 1:40 p.m.
Daedalus19876 says... #19
VorelNailo: Alas, no. There's no way to make encore instant-speed.
December 18, 2020 11:25 a.m.
Omniscience_is_life says... #20
Are you happy with your ratio of creatures that can be Unearthed? It's nice that it can cycle if it's a dead card, but it would be nicer if it was guaranteed value by itself. Maybe Toxic Deluge?
December 28, 2020 1:37 p.m.
Daedalus19876 says... #21
Omniscience_is_life: It's certainly not BAD -- it returns my commander, and can also hit Glasspool Mimic Flip/Phantasmal Image to fulfill one of my combos -- but it is definitely a potential cut. Toxic does seem like a pretty important inclusion here...
December 28, 2020 1:39 p.m.
Since you asked what noncreature cards to cut for more interaction, I looked for the cards that don't interact much or at all, and the problem is that they are all cards that reanimate or fill your graveyard. Quite the conundrum.
Without an idea of what interaction you need, I've got no clue other than just swapping non-interactive stuff for the things you want to add. I kind of just wanted to say I really like the deck and have enjoyed seeing it get better and better as time goes by. I like jank a bit to much to pull off a deck like this.
My gut tells me Tolarian Winds could be swapped out, since it is your only wheel that doesn't work with Hullbreacher.
December 28, 2020 2:04 p.m.
Daedalus19876 says... #23
1empyrean: First, thank you for your comment! I'm glad you like the deck, the highest possible praise is that I've inspired or interested someone with something I made :)
Second, I think you're right about Tolarian Winds. I never actually like casting it, I always want to keep at least one or two of the cards in my hand. So if I remove Tolarian Winds and Unearth for two more interaction pieces, I think that's a good start. Thank you both! :D
December 28, 2020 2:35 p.m.
Savage1988 says... #24
Hey Daedalus19876 - very nice Araumi deck. I would've built her myself if i didn't already run muldrotha and purphoros - she seems a bit of a combination.
You asked for non-creatures cards to cut in the "Advertise your deck!" forum: how about Unearth? It seems a little too cute and the potential hits aren't thrilling. Cycling 2 is not cheap enough for me to consider it a "free" addition.
Of the creatures i'd probably cut Obsessive Stitcher as it seems a little slow and expensive. Good luck!
December 30, 2020 6:37 p.m.
Crow_Umbra says... #25
In the games that you've played with Araumi, did you ever feel the need to run any kind of passive defenses like Propaganda? In the games I've played my deck, I've found that Araumi folds against aggro & token decks without removal or passive defense.
I'm currently running Vile Consumption since I have quite a few token decks in my meta, but I'm considering switching it for Crawlspace (since Emry could grab it), or good ol Propaganda.
VorelNailo says... #1
Meteor Golem is really the only thing that could work in here to get rid of enchantments, aside from the aforementioned 7+ bounce spells.
December 9, 2020 8:28 p.m.