Tread with Caution (1st place FNM)

Standard Vindemiatrixx

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Vindemiatrixx says... #1

This is a "competitive play" type of deck. Multiple copies of Scavenging Ooze doesn't make or break a deck.. That's just silly to say. Yes this deck is more budget based hence no use of Voice of Resurgence or multiple copies of Scavenging Ooze but that doesn't make the deck worse as a whole.

Another reason other than the other Oozes being hungry after the first one noms the grave is space, the deck is already at a tight fit and making swaps has become rather difficult in my opinion. I would possibly run 2 copies just to bump up the draw probability but that's the limit to me.

Say I were to remove something in place of a Scavenging Ooze what would you replace? Other than Rootborn Defenses since it helps a ton and populates a beefy token.

October 24, 2013 2:13 a.m.

Drfrozenfire says... #2

Do you mean to replace the Scavenging Ooze ? I'm not a fan of 1x's in decks, so I'd probably take that opportunity to throw in the second Bow of Nylea

October 24, 2013 2:20 a.m.

Vindemiatrixx says... #3

Oh okay I see what your saying, but I thought your suggestion was to add more Scavenging Ooze into the deck, so I decided I would get a 2nd copy if you can come up with a card to remove to make room for it, but yes I do need another bow as well, but like I said, space is tight /sigh

October 24, 2013 2:22 a.m.

Drfrozenfire says... #4

I might suggest swapping out 4x Experiment One for 1 more Unflinching Courage 1 more Selesnya Charm , 1 more Fleecemane Lion and 1 more Rootborn Defenses .

Also, you should consider putting a couple Grove of the Guardian in here.

October 24, 2013 2:28 a.m.

Vindemiatrixx says... #5

I don't think I want to get rid of the Experiment One its a great T1 play followed by a T2 +1/+1 via Call of the Conclave or Soldier of the Pantheon and he can continue to get bigger through populated tokens ect.

Grove of the Guardian looks awesome, I may put 2 of them in, the only downside is colorless but man the 8/8 would be super nice. I may just remove the Scavenging Ooze for an extra Fleecemane Lion or Rootborn Defenses

Im not sure what lands I would remove for 2x Grove of the Guardian def an interesting card, that I happen to have the paper copy token for lol

October 24, 2013 2:58 a.m.

Vindemiatrixx says... #6

Currently trying to find a spot for Shredding Winds in the sideboard to get rid of Stormbreath Dragon its never been a problem for me yet, but im sure if it hits the field it would be a pain to deal with. This takes care of it.. Advice?

October 27, 2013 11:55 p.m.

Hamadyne says... #7

Hey, thanks for the comment on my decklist!

Looking at yours, I can see some similarities. Might toss in my spare Wayfaring Temples, as those are really fun creatures to toss out on the battlefield for 3.

Just so you know, Sundering Growth can't kill the gods, as they're indestructible. Try something like Fade into Antiquity , which exiles them instead. For other artifacts, Sundering Growth is a very solid card, though.

October 27, 2013 11:57 p.m.

Vindemiatrixx says... #8

@ Hamadyne Yeah I forgot about them being indestructible but I forgot to re edit the post since I remembered that Selesnya Charm takes care of them, I will now re edit to avoid further confusion lol.

As for Wayfaring Temple its amazing, it replaces Voice of Resurgence which in my opinion can be better since its basically a Voice token but with the added ability to populate a 5/5 wurm made from Advent of the Wurm I would run the Voice but at 40$ a pop I can't commit to it since I got my Wayfarings for 50 cents a pop. So in my opinion overall, it can be better than Voice for the deck as a whole which I think is great, it does cost 1 more mana to use, but totally worth it.

Also a quick tip, you can cast Mutavault off of its own mana to make it a creature but it will enter tapped, but that allows us to pump up Wayfaring Temple by an extra point of damage which can be awesome! This play also works with cards like Pack Rat pumping up all the rats.

That being said im debating on putting in Mutavault for that reason alone.

October 28, 2013 3:10 a.m.

Hamadyne says... #9

Mutavault for powering up Wayfaring Temple is an interesting idea, but if it's only for that card, I'd consider it as a sideboard only.

As for your contemplation of Shredding Winds , Plummet is a cheaper, more efficient spell. Still kills Stormbreath Dragon, but for one less mana!

October 28, 2013 5:26 p.m.

Vindemiatrixx says... #10

@ Hamadyne Nice! That is def much better, I also though about maybe using Arbor Colossus but that Plummet is much better for the CMC, thanks for the recommendation! Can't believe I missed that card! lol.

As for the Mutavault I think it still is a good main deck card simply because it can be great against control as well, just another 2/2 body with the added potential of bringing Wayfaring Temple up a counter.

October 28, 2013 8:58 p.m.

Hamadyne says... #11

That makes sense versus control matchups. I can see the utility of Mutavault in that case!

What I also really like about this deck is its low mana curve - you can do pretty much anything with four mana, and with extra lands in later turns, you can keep your opponent on their toes.

October 28, 2013 10:02 p.m.

Vindemiatrixx says... #12

Exactly, there are tons of combat tricks as well, such as end step Advent or Flash in a Satyr vs. Control post wipe. Or simply give them the middle finger with Rootborn Defenses and make another 5/5 wurm. It just gets nasty, thanks again for helping with Plummet ! It shall make lots of Stormbreath Dragon shed tears. Are there any other cards in your arsenal of knowledge that you may consider adding and or removing? Im always up to try to improve and test new things!

October 28, 2013 10:14 p.m.

Vindemiatrixx says... #13

Currently debating on removing Scavenging Ooze for Archangel of Thune since she gives more overall power to the deck as well as some more benefits to gaining life, May consider her a 2 of and also remove the Bow of Nylea but I really don't think I want to get rid of the bow since it can also chain into the angels effect by gaining 3 which triggers Archangel of Thune spreading counters, populate with trostani which would trigger it again then swing in for another counter which gives a +3/+3 per turn if the combo is in action. So I need help deciding what else to remove in the deck or to just keep her as a 1 of which isn't worse than the current 1 of Scavenging Ooze

October 29, 2013 12:54 a.m.

Quadsimotto says... #14

The angel and the bow is a sick combo I watched get out of control on a guy let FNM. I'd go to a one of Wayfaring Temple if you wanted to add a two of angels.

October 29, 2013 7:40 a.m.

Vindemiatrixx says... #15

Yeah but the problem with that is the Wayfaring Temple is just another way to populate tokens if I happen to either not draw Trostani, Selesnya's Voice or he gets taken out. I do want a 2 of for the angel though because it is highly effective with all the life gain from Trostani as well as the bow and her lifelink + whatever else may have Unflinching Courage on it.. Just not sure if the Wayfaring should go or not it is a do-able slot to remove but having the temple as a 1 of wouldn't really be that great imo

October 30, 2013 12:25 a.m.

infinitemana says... #16

I think that Voice of Resurgence is great for the deck. Populating elementals is a another wincon that you could add, besides just great value.

October 30, 2013 3:54 p.m.

Vindemiatrixx says... #17

I agree, but the price of the card is just too much for me at the moment. Maybe ill slowly add them in, but again the cost is really high.

October 30, 2013 4:32 p.m.

I think Voice would probably be a good choice and maybe Elspeth but otherwise the deck is good, Ill most likely build it :D +1.

October 30, 2013 7:54 p.m.

Vindemiatrixx says... #19

@ TheTouchofSatan Thanks! You totally should build it, it has won me several games thus far, once Trostani, Selesnya's Voice hits the board and is unanswered it gets way out of hand. If you add in Voice of Resurgence remove Wayfaring Temple since thats the overall substitute for the Voice. I don't think Elspeth, Sun's Champion is needed in this style of deck, she is good, but I just don't think she fits overall. Too mana heavy when you may want to save the mana for Rootborn Defenses as well as end step Trostani and Advent of the Wurm

I haven't currently tested Elspeth in the deck, so its no completely ruled out, but again she is quite expensive so Ajani, Caller of the Pride is a better choice for the dollar as well as giving double strike and flying to a creature.

October 30, 2013 8:47 p.m.

Vindemiatrixx says... #20

Removed 2x Archangel of Thune to swap in 2x Voice of Resurgence

October 30, 2013 9:57 p.m.

HipHopOptimus says... #21

Not to nitpick, but if you have 2 Voices in your deck, you don't need 3 in the Maybeboard. Regardless, a +1 from me. Fantastic deck.

October 31, 2013 4:52 p.m.

Vindemiatrixx says... #22

Haha derp! Thanks for telling me! Totally forgot to edit the maybe board when I swapped it in! Also, im glad you like the deck! Its still a work in progress always looking to improve the deck, so if you have suggestions lay em on me! Thanks again!

October 31, 2013 6:27 p.m.

GarrettO23 says... #23

I see you have drifted to more aggro like my deck. Hope its working out for you. I cant really think of anything to improve my deck and I feel like its perfect. I am debating trying out Ajani, Caller of the Pride but im not sure if hes worth it. Has he been woth having over other 1 or 2 drops? I run 4 Soldier of the Pantheon

November 1, 2013 12:48 a.m.

Vindemiatrixx says... #24

@ GarrettO23 Yeah the double strike and flying wins games straight up. Alot more effective than Soldier of the Pantheon in my opinion. Give it a shot, Ajani, Caller of the Pride is a force to be reckoned with. And yeah I was aggro to start and was trying Archangel of Thune out. The end result was that I was banking on her too much therefore not getting the most out of my other cards.

November 1, 2013 12:59 a.m.

GarrettO23 says... #25

I agree with the worry of not being fast enough. I try to have a few 4 cmc at the top of my curve. Def dont want a 5 drop in my deck. Have you still been doing well at fnm? Im having trouble with my side board, not sure what to side in and out against aggro and control. I think my deck is well positioned to take a game one against anyone I just am having more trouble deciding what to side in and out. U mind taking a look when you get a chance and letting me know what u might side in against esper and against mono blue?

November 1, 2013 1:18 a.m.

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