Triple Six, Five, Forked Tongue [Retired]
Commander / EDH
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I'm pretty new to MTG (about 1.5 years). Can you explain why you've included Uba Mask? I get that it exiles the cards, allowing you some value from Prosper... But if you can't afford to cast it that turn, or it isn't optimal...?
October 31, 2021 12:08 a.m.
Crow_Umbra says... #3
Hey warmbro, so Uba Mask is supposed to be like a semi-asymettrical Stax piece. It potentially throws opponents off schedule if they're forced to play a card that same turn or lose it afterwards.
Given that Prosper wants to play from exile, this doesn't necessarily hurt as much.
October 31, 2021 2:11 a.m.
Cool, your build looks like a fun, chaotic time. Plenty of creatures to support a board state prescence and party it off.
If you'd like, please take a look at my Prosper build in my profile and an opinion of it as well :)
November 13, 2021 1:21 p.m.
Crow_Umbra says... #5
Thank you! Sure thing victorm03, I can take a look at it. Is there a budget or general power you are aiming for?
November 14, 2021 2:54 a.m.
IHATENAMES says... #6
For the mode you will most likely use Vance's Blasting Cannons Flip might just be a upgrade for Outpost Siege tbh I no longer run phyrexian arena in my decks as it seems slow most games you might want another draw spell instead. Also running Ghirapur AEther Grid to use tokens to ping or Indomitable Creativity to cheat permaents in could be another interesting play.
Lastly I'd look into maybe some tech lands you have uborg but no cabal coffers?? That's the dream. Other tech lands maybe mikokoro the center of the Sea for group hug ish card draw. Some bfz flip lands like hangra mauling. Spicy flavorful deck.
December 27, 2021 3:30 a.m.
Coward_Token says... #7
neo-Hidetsusgu is IMO pretty bad. Three mana to impulse-draw, and then you have to play the exiled card on the SAME turn? Meh.
December 27, 2021 4:57 a.m.
Crow_Umbra says... #8
Thank you for your suggestions IHATENAMES and Coward_Token.
Regarding Hidetsugu, Devouring Chaos, I should've written a deck update disclaimer that I'm just play-testing it right now. Mindleecher is still in its slot in paper. I'm not a big fan that it is 7 total mana to cast & activate it once. I rationalized that it would be a bit more doable with treasure tokens available, but still not ideal.
I think I had Vance's Blasting Cannons Flip in an older version of my Maybe Board, or it's in the Maybe Board of my Moxfield version of the deck. I honestly forgot about it lol. I'd definitely consider it, especially with the option for repeated removal on its flip side.
I've for sure play-tested Ghirapur AEther Grid in the past and wasn't too excited, personally. In the games I've actually played the deck IRL, I felt like I got the best use out of treasures by having them up for mana for the instant-speed removal and interaction I'm currently running.
After play-testing and playing with more X-spells in the earliest versions of the deck ( Exsanguinate and Commune with Lava), I decided to move away from X spells since they felt really bad to get stranded with impulse draw. I think Bolas's Citadel fits a similar role that Indomitable Creativity would, but has the upsides of being repeatable, can hit the table for damage, and can be tutored out by Magda, Brazen Outlaw.
Phyrexian Arena, for me, falls into that weird space of not being amazing, but being just good enough to keep around. I'm a bit more biased since I've had the fortune of playing it turns 2-3 in the IRL games I've played with this deck. It helped me stay consistent with land drops and keeping my hand stocked enough. I have considered Stinging Study as a potential replacement. I'm always trying to find the right mix of repeated/incremental effects vs burst effects.
Regarding my utility lands, I only included the Urborg because I pulled a copy from Timespiral Remastered, and had a couple copies of Crypt Ghast around that I bought back in my earliest RTR days lol. I definitely have a Mikokoro around that I could likely swap in.
December 27, 2021 2:24 p.m.
Coward_Token says... #9
For Prosper, I think Vance's Blasting Cannons Flip got it backwards. Earlier on, you want to build your mana so that you later can reliably cast multiple exiled spells. Vance's gives you mana when you probably don't need it.
December 27, 2021 2:35 p.m.
Coward_Token says... #10
For SNC commander, don't forget about Rain of Riches
April 19, 2022 4:33 p.m.
Coward_Token says... #11
Then again, you're not too fond of Wild-Magic Sorcerer so nm
April 19, 2022 4:37 p.m.
Crow_Umbra says... #12
Sorry for the super late response Coward_Token. Rain of Riches is a cool suggestion. I think it is slightly less vulnerable to removal as Wild-Magic Sorcerer, but is slightly more narrow. Although this deck aims to pump out Treasures, there can be those occasions where I don't have any, so then Rain of Riches just kind of sits there.
I'll keep it in mind if I ever want to add some Cascade or similar effects into the deck.
May 14, 2022 6:56 p.m.
Coward_Token says... #13
lol don't worry, the upvote was enough communication ;)
May 15, 2022 7:36 a.m.
Love this deck and how you've organized it! I actually proxied it a few months ago to test Prosper out before I built him myself and it was a fun deck to play. Didn't realize it was yours until today when I saw the name! and then I was like well of course Crow_Umbra made a great deck!
December 21, 2023 12:49 p.m.
Crow_Umbra says... #15
Thank you for the kind words Tsukimi, I appreciate it. I've updated the deck a bit more since you possibly play-tested it, with some notable additions being Inti, Seneschal of the Sun, Chimil, the Inner Sun, Breeches, Eager Pillager, The Flux, and Bonehoard Dracosaur.
Prosper was my first toe dip into Rakdos, and something I've had a lot of fun with. At the time that I put the deck together I thought this would just be a niche design space, and not a major slice of the pie for Red over the following years.
Crow_Umbra says... #1
Lol yeah, I kinda underestimated her for Prosper at first too Soulus101. Hopefully she'll be useful in the games I play tomorrow night.
Only reason I haven't put her in my Osgir deck is because I don't really use Treasures or other Dwarves in that deck.
October 21, 2021 3:52 p.m.