Trostani's Big Tokens Factory

Commander / EDH* Lagaffe212

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Lagaffe212 says... #1

Hello, As my deck is still in a alpha phase, I'm looking for as much feed-back as possible.

I'm wondering if :

-Nullmage Shepherd & Aura Shards serves the same purpose. Should I cut Aura Shards ? G/W is better for tutoring creatures, and it fits best the deck.

-For the same reason, should I cut Kodama's Reach / Crop Rotation for a Sakura-Tribe Elder and a Ondu Giant ?

-I'm also not sure about Seance . I dont like the fact that it exile my creatures (that I wont be able to recur with eternal witness). But it's still very powerful in combination with Trostani, as the copy will stay.

-Maybe is the deck too short in tutoring effects. Should I add Tooth and Nail , Chord of Calling , Citanul Flute , Congregation at Dawn , Defense of the Heart , Eladamri's Call , Hibernation's End ...?

-Cut Decree of Justice for Gelatinous Genesis ?

June 21, 2013 10:22 a.m.

MagicalHacker says... #2

1) G/W is not lacking in enchantment tutors. It's worth it to use Aura Shards even if you put in tutors to search for enchantments. The shards are that good.

2) You should never need to tutor for ramp, so don't plan to do so.

3) Seance doesn't have to target creatures that you would cast Eternal Witness on. Keep it.

4) Except for the flute, yes.

5) I see no Entreat the Angels , and I say it's better than both of those cards.

Out of my personal experience with Trostani, Feed the Pack has always helped me out.

June 21, 2013 11:08 a.m.

Foxtober says... #3

Gatecreeper Vine also tutors for a land (or Gate) if you don't have a Sakura-Tribe Elder . You don't have to sacrifice it, and it gets you 2 life if Trostani's out.

I use Seance in my deck and it's fun. If you brought back an Armada Wurm you get to keep the token no matter what. And you have some good ETB creatures.

You have a lot of creatures, you might enjoy Lurking Predators for free guys or a way to sift through your deck.

June 21, 2013 11:51 a.m.

Lhurgyof says... #4

Dual Nature is awesome with Trostani.

June 21, 2013 1:14 p.m.

miracleHat says... #5

Crush of Wurms is crushing with trostani. also, Slime Molding can creating some pretty big ass creatures.

June 21, 2013 1:40 p.m.

Lagaffe212 says... #6

Thanks for your feed-back and help :)

@mstancea : Thanks, I'll try to find a Entreat the Angels . I'm not sure about Feed the Pack because you cannot sac a non-token, and also because I follow a "Big token" path, and not a "swarm token" path :)

@Copaland I played in the times of kamigawa so I have plenty of those little dudes :D Lurking Predators looks amazing in a deck full of creature, and it definitely disturb the board. Doesn't it drag too much hate in multiplayer(4) ?

@Lhurgyof Indeed, since the change of the Legendary rule,Dual Nature totally rock ! I'll try to find a place for it.

@ m12fox : Crush of Wurms & Slime Molding are good cards, but I decided to put the focus on big ETB creature, for the incredible toolbox they provide by tokenizing them over en over. Armada Wurm & Worldspine Wurm kind of do the same, but attached to a body (tutorable, etc...) I've also cut Wurmcalling for the same reason :)

-Decree of Justice +Entreat the Angels +Dual Nature + Lurking Predators

June 21, 2013 3:39 p.m.

hisoka says... #8

I understand your feelings on creatures with ETB over token creating spells, but I figured I'd still suggest Advent of the Wurm ...it is always fun to throw it out at the end of your opponents turn when you have a parallel lives or doubling season on the board.

June 21, 2013 4:36 p.m.

Foxtober says... #9

I actually haven't gotten Lurking Predators out yet when I play, but will let you know how much hate it attracts!

June 21, 2013 7:02 p.m.

RangerRoque says... #10

Here are a few suggestions:

Wayfaring Temple probably isn't worth the slot. It doesn't look like you have much evasion for him, and he probably won't be as big as you need him to be.

Tooth and Nail has treated me very well, both on the offense when I want more pressure and on the defense when I need an answer, like, say, Acidic Slime .

If you've got Trostani on the board, Serra Avatar is hilarious.

June 29, 2013 1:35 a.m.

Lagaffe212 says... #11

It's true, but it's so much fun to get a tokenized version of Wayfaring Temple . If he's not locked quickly, it's a self-replicating token madness. Under a Soul Foundry , it just win the game own his own.

Tooth and Nail is certainly a card I will add to the deck. It's just too powerful :)

About Acidic Slime , I already run Sylvan Primordial , Brutalizer Exarch & Woodfall Primus . I dont think i need the deadtouch.

July 5, 2013 4:56 a.m.

Lagaffe212 says... #12

With new M14 cards, I see a clear opportunity to reinforce the "+1/+1 counters" sub-theme of the deck.

  • -Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite +Archangel of Thune . -2/-2 is going to bring me too much hate. Plus, I cannot copy legendaries. Multiples copies of the Archangel of Thune will turn this into madness ! + She flies !

  • -Kamahl, Fist of Krosa +Kalonian Hydra : A overpowered & cheap card ! While Kamahl is great for his "anti wrath effect", I dont beleave it's fun gameplay. The hydra is going to boost my creatures much consistenly that Kamahl would do, and much cheaper/quicker and with more synergies.

  • -Krosan Drover +Champion of Lambholt : The Drover is just underpowered. And the champion is impressive to pass the defense line !

  • -Riptide Replicator +Angel of Serenity : Replicator seems also a little weak. It cost a lot to set up and dont produce so huge tokens. Also i dont realy benefit of the tribal aspect. In counterpart [Angel of Serenity] is a great allaround reply (treats or recursivity)

  • -Forest +Gavony Township : Says +1/+1 ?

Those changes will also reinforce the synergy with Ajani Goldmane , Vigor and Forgotten Ancient

What do you think about?

July 25, 2013 5:23 a.m.

Lagaffe212 says... #13

  • Lurking Predators vs Death's Presence : I need to playtest a bit to see which is best. Lurning is very good agains control decks if it gets in play, but death is a great combo card !
July 25, 2013 6:43 a.m.

Lagaffe212 says... #14

I also seached some combo that could fit the deck,

Kamahl, Fist of Krosa + tokenized Village Bell-Ringer + Trostani, Selesnya's Voice = infitite mana/token/life. Also work (even beter) with the Vitu-Ghazi Guildmage .

Also, I needed beter defensive tools. especially agains commander combat damage or infinite damage combos. Palisade Giant , and tokens of it seems awesome.

July 26, 2013 7:20 a.m.

Cathars' Crusade for shenanigans. Especially Mycoloth themed shenanigans.

August 5, 2013 4:44 a.m.
August 30, 2013 7:08 a.m.

Lagaffe212 says... #17

I thought about Dark Depths , but it's not worth the slot without Mirror Gallery . And Mirror Gallery just dont do anything alone :(

August 30, 2013 9 a.m.

Lagaffe212 says... #18

+Forgotten Ancient Back in the build. Very strong in multi.+Karametra's Acolyte and Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx : In for the ramp !+Oracle of Mul Daya , who synergize very well with Sylvan Library +Bow of Nylea great utility !

+Luminarch Ascension Powerfull token generator in multi.+Lurking Predators Instant threat enchantement

+Deathrender & Myojin of Life's Web : beacause puting your hand into play is fun.

+Elspeth, Knight-Errant Such a great emblem in commander !

October 9, 2013 11:38 a.m.

Arthdirith says... #19

I love W/G Token decks, I will say the best way to say no to the life gain is False Cure . +1

May 6, 2014 8:14 a.m.

cian114 says... #20

If you ever you find yourself having mana troubles, consider cards like Cultivate , Kodama's Reach , Krosan Verge , or even Karametra, God of Harvests since you're creature heavy. You're in green w/o much ramp, wat?

I have GW Trostani deck, too. Feel free to check it out here: In Trostani We Trust

May 17, 2014 2:59 a.m.

Lagaffe212 says... #21

In fact, i try to avoid using ramp sorceries because they are less reusable than creatures. The main theme of the deck is to somehow bring back creatures as token, and populate them. With parallels life & Seance , I managed to tutor 5 lands with a Farhaven Elf : Cast elf : 1st land (then die by chumpblok), then double temp token with seance, double permanent populated token)

But I really like Krosan Verge, and I migth give a second try to Karametra, God of Harvests :)

May 18, 2014 6:53 a.m.

Lagaffe212 says... #23

Clone Shell

Gamekeeper

Moldgraf Monstrosity

Seedguide Ash

Arbiter of Knollridge

Craterhoof Behemoth

Deadwood Treefolk

Fierce Empath

Silverglade Elemental

Terastodon

Titania, Protector of Argoth

Trostani's Summoner

Walker of the Grove

Yavimaya Dryad

Angelic Accord

Garruk, Primal Hunter

Gutter Grime

Ooze Garden

Spawning Grounds

Twilight Drover

January 15, 2015 4:38 p.m.

Lagaffe212 says... #24

Clone Shell

Gamekeeper

Moldgraf Monstrosity

Seedguide Ash

Arbiter of Knollridge

Craterhoof Behemoth

Deadwood Treefolk

Fierce Empath

Silverglade Elemental

Terastodon

Titania, Protector of Argoth

Trostani's Summoner

Walker of the Grove

Yavimaya Dryad

Angelic Accord

Garruk, Primal Hunter

Gutter Grime

Ooze Garden

Spawning Grounds

Twilight Drover

January 15, 2015 4:45 p.m.

Lagaffe212 says... #25

Dauntless Escort

Odric, Master Tactician

Serra Avatar

Entreat the Angels

Courser of Kruphix

Exploration

Darien, King of Kjeldor

Eternal Witness

Rampaging Baloths

Silklash Spider

Garruk, Primal Hunter

Evolving Wilds

Terramorphic Expanse

Austere Command

Luminarch Ascension

Rogue's Passage

Cream of the Crop

Perilous Forays

Illusionist's Bracers

Rings of Brighthearth

January 16, 2015 7:11 a.m.

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