Scytec Thank you for the upvote, bro! As for where to start, the main liness are definitely attainable even on a budget. The speed will be somewhat affected since you’ll be losing LED lines. This would also mean your HD line will require a draw spell to win.

I think the mana base is equally important but you can probably get away with not having the ABUR duals as long as you have the fetches and shocks. For me this is the bare minimum.

As an alternative, fast lands and pain lands instead of ABURs is probably the way to go. Good luck with the building! Feel free to ask questions along the way.

I was having a think - if you're going to add GSZ, would it be worth replacing the Swords to Plowshares with Rapid Hybridization? While not as good removal as swords, you can use it on your own Hulk after fetching it with GSZ.

I was honestly thinking the same thing! I’ll be using Pongify since I already have one.

Scratch that. I just ent through my cards and it’s actually Rapid that I have and not Pongify. :)

So as soon as I get back from tour (life of a musician) I’m going to get back to working on my version. So I’ve noticed that drawing dead pieces is a problem, but shuffling them away is a good thing, so I think Sensei’s Divining Top and other top-deck sculptors are worth looking into.

Also, Merchant Scroll is worth a spot if you want some extra consistency, and especially now with Rapid Hybridization.

Plus Sensei’s can be recurred with Muldrotha for the final draw if need be.

Wow, I think having a career in music is pretty cool. Good luck with that, bro!

I had SDT and Merchant Scroll here for a while and both did work well. Unfortunately, there are so many great cards for the deck that SDT and the Scrolljust had to go.

SDT could indeed be recurred by Muldrotha for the final draw but so could Hapless Researcher which also happens to be a combo piece and can be used to discard cards that you might want to send to your graveyard.

I look forward to seeing the adjustments you’ll be making to your list. Your meta is a lot more cutthroat than mine so i’m sure your perspective will be quite different.

While I really like the include of Reclamation Sage, I think you're going to have a catch 22 situation with flash Hulk. As the Hulk needs to actually die in order to tutor the cards, if Rest in Peace or Leyline of the Void are in play you'll never actually get the tutor in the first place to fetch rec sage.

While I think you could still leave it in (as you can EE or GSZ into it), the Hulk line won't be there.

You are absolutely right and I completely overlooked this. Thanks for pointing that one out. Will need to update my primer.

Thanks man! Yeah, it’s a hard slog, but I like it. I’ve got a paper Bazaar of Baghdad, so I’m thinking of trying it as a pet card lol, but also due to draw and discard.

Damn. I just got done re-reading World War Hulk, lmao.

Lol. I wish they made a movie out of it. Thor: Ragnarok was almost there.

Latest iteration. Been trying out Spellseeker in place of Merchant Scroll as a versatile late-game tutor (fighting Teferi, Zur, and Blood Pod means I need all the help I can get as the games go longer), and added in Mana Drain to help accelerate GSZ if I need to grab Hulk, hardcast it, and then destroy it using Pongify (good call on that one). http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/flashin-breakfast-hulk/

Have you been able to test the changes? I just read one of the Blood Pod primers in the site and it is quite interesting. Is it a more problematic matchup for you than Shimmer Zur? From the looks of your playgroup, I can understand whyyou opted to slow down the deck instead of focusing on winning early.

Yeah, the Blood Pod matchup isn't an issue if I win fast, but if I get stopped from winning early, then the matchup becomes a huge problem. Shimmer Zur is definitely the toughest deck at the table, because it's almost as fast as Hulk and more resilient, which is why I'm trying to extend Hulk's lasting power more. I like the 'win fast' mentality of the canon list, but when you're up against opponents like that, the deck needs a little more adaptation. I think using Eldritch and Bomberman adds so much already.

Sylvan Caryatid and Vampiric Tutor seem like solid includes.

Sorry didn’t see you already had vampiric tutor

Why did you choose muldratha over angel of glory's rise?

Limejuice My playgroups aren’t 100% competitive so they try to get rid of me or prevent me from winning before going after each other. The Muldrotha line gives me an alternative win con to Lab Maniac and adds value to LED which I also use in the bomberman combo. It’s not the most slot-efficient list but I had to make some changes to address my meta.

Since you're already running stuff like Entomb have you thought about running Leonin Relic-Warder and Animate Dead for the Shrodinger's Cat loop? Also any reason you're not running Gaea's Blessing ?

I'm also interested why you've decided to run the traditional Dread Return line, as this combo is kind of negated by Kozilek, Butcher of Truth . Assuming uninteractive opponents it's not so back as you can keep milling as required with reshuffle, but this gets much messier if there are any responses.

enpc Tbh, i've just started reading up on this Shuffle Hulk build so i'm still trying to figure things out. lol. Thank you for the points though. They literally stopped me dead on my track. It seems I will need to choose between the Breakfast and the Shuffle route then.

As for the Cat loop, is this the one that requires LED? I think it will be pushing me more towards the Shuffle Hulk line, no? Gaea's Blessing seems like an unnecessary redundancy to me. Drawing into it or any time during the game stops me from being able to combo off.

So Gaea's Blessing does the exact same thing as Kozilek, Butcher of Truth in the shuffle hulk piles except that it costs 2, not 10, so you can run Ad Nauseam and not just kill yourself. But if you're not running Ad Naus, both is good redundancy. But yeah, Gaea's Blessing forms the combo.

So just for clarity's sake (And I'm sure you know all of this) but the line for the deck is:

Flash + Protean Hulk -> Nomads en-Kor , Cephalid Illusionist , Blood Artist and Viscera Seer then milling unitl you hit Narcomoeba (then sac to seer) and then milling either Koz or Gaea's Blessing

There's also a line you can get which is:

Flash + Protean Hulk -> Viscera Seer + Grand Abolisher + Spellseeker getting Reanimate and then reanimating Hulk to get the previous line.

I have also seen people talk about including Cloud of Faeries in the deck in case you have any of the combo pieces in hand. Somebody was also talking about using Whirlpool Rider (instead of Grand Abolisher ) in the previous line to just reshuffle the pieces in.

As for Shrodinger's Cat - the line is:

Get Leonin Relic-Warder in the graveyard with Blood Artist / Zulaport Cutthroat in play and then either Animate Dead or Necromancy the cat. with the ETB trigger, off Warder, you can then exile the enchantment, sending kitty to the graveyard, which triggers the LTB ability which returns the enchantment to play, targetting kitty... I think you get the rest.

And with Blood Artist / Zulaport Cutthroat in play you win.

The nice thing about this package is that Necromancy is in the deck already, Animate Dead is an easy include and so you're really just adding Leonin Relic-Warder (which is still enchantment removal, especially with stacking triggers from something like Viscera Seer ). So for one extra card you have a backup combo which overlaps with the other cards.

Thank you! Shuffle Hulk seems a lot more interesting than I initially thought. My problem with Gaea's Blessing is that it needs to come from the library for it to trigger the shuffle.

I'm probably going to end up using Leonin Relic-Warder as my Plan B in place of Academy Rector and Pattern of Rebirth since i'm trying to limit my spending nowadays. I also like the Cloud of Faeries and Whirpool Rider techs. I was initially considering Putrid Imp to solve the problem of drawing into combo pieces. I'm torn between adding them or just adding redundancies like Carrion Feeder and Zulaport Cutthroat .

Love a good Flash Hulk

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