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I've always wanted to build a discard deck in EDH: I created a fun and functional discard deck in Legacy, and I've always wanted to repeat that in my favorite format, EDH.

The problem is that EDH is a singleton format, and because I can't have four Persecute s in my deck, Liliana's Specter seems like a better choice because it is consistently easier to recur than Persecute , so I naturally gravitated toward building a discard deck with a graveyard sub-theme, but I can't seem to recur Black Cat often enough to abuse it, so I'm almost ready to throw in the towel, since the alterations to this budget deck are starting to make it more expensive than I would prefer, and I'm starting to become a bit disillusioned with it. lol

Anyhow, I don't expect you to expend all your time and energy in correcting every single issue with my deck: I would simply appreciate any amount of advice, no matter how minimal it may be. I've put a lot of time into researching this deck, and I don't seem to be getting much traction, so it seemed like it would be a good idea to ask someone who has more experience with recursion decks than me.

Four main reasons I want to use this commander:

  1. His cmc cost is very low.

  2. He can recur himself from the graveyard.

  3. He's a sac outlet, and because of his ability to self-recur, he's the only sac outlet I really need.

  4. I've always wanted to build a competitive discard deck in edh, and cards like Ravenous Rats should have more value than Hymn to Tourach because they can attack, defend and provide card advantage through recursion.

How this deck is supposed to work:

  1. I play a lot of low cmc creature spells that cause my opponents to discard when my creatures enter the battlefield or are sacrificed, and I repeat this process over and over again until they have nothing left to answer with.

  2. In the process of saccing all these creatures, I gradually wear down my opponents' life totals.

  3. I play win-cons like Bitter Ordeal, Gray Merchant of Asphodel and Kokusho, the Evening Star to seal the deal.

The problems are as follows:

  1. This deck is intended to be a fast aggro deck because I don't have enough defensive measures to keep myself alive if the game is prolonged. Forcing my opponents to discard is supposed to protect me, whilst my opponents gradually die. I also have creature/artifact removal to assist with player suppression, and honestly, it feels more effective than my subpar discard engine.

  2. Even though I have ten recursion cards and ten card draw/tutor cards, my hand is never as full as it should be.

  3. Even with a combined total of 15 mana rocks and land tutors, Tymaret, the Murder King's mana-activated abilities are still cost prohibitive and just don't do enough. There has to be a way to enhance what he does and/or get around the activation costs.

  4. Considering that my overall cmc cost is actually pretty low and the fact that I have decent ramp for my colors, it's still a huge mana investment to play creatures, sac them and recur them. There has to be a way to cheat them into play, get around Tymaret's recursion costs, and/or cheat the recursion costs.

  5. My discard engine is so abysmal that the only thing I can rely on is hoping that no one kills me before I play Sorin Markov and sac five creatures, and that's obviously a terrible strategy. My goal is to suppress my opponents by making them discard whilst gradually wearing down their life, but it just doesn't work that way in practice.

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Date added 7 years
Last updated 7 years
Legality

This deck is not Commander / EDH legal.

Rarity (main - side)

6 - 0 Mythic Rares

28 - 0 Rares

19 - 0 Uncommons

26 - 0 Commons

Cards 100
Avg. CMC 2.85
Tokens Human Cleric 1/1 BW, Morph 2/2 C
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