Uh... Let Me Read Your Commander Real Quick...
Commander / EDH
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king-saproling says... #2
I'm not trying to be an ass but the irony of your deck name and the fact that you didn't read your general is pretty great haha. Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder does not only count black creatures. I think Ancestral Statue would be a really powerful piece here. You return the statue to itself, make thrulls, sac the thrulls for mana or whatev, repeat. With an altar and something like Zulaport Cutthroat or Ayara out, that's a wrap! You could also loop artifact creatures with return effects (like Myr Retriever, Junk Diver, Workshop Assistant) for a similar effect.
February 25, 2020 11:36 a.m.
jasonkrivera says... #3
Wiggyman I put Contamination at my Alela deck because that deck will be used against certain punks in my LGS who deserve to die a dirty death. haha
Also Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder counts any creature spell you cast, and then it creates black Thrulls. Therefore, Ancestral Statue can return itself to your hand for the recast. Combined with Phyrexian Altar, it creates infinite ETB + death triggers, or with Ashnod's Altar it creates infinite mana + infinite ETB + death triggers.
It's actually quite a brilliant combo-y suggestion.
February 25, 2020 11:37 a.m.
aceofrainbows says... #4
king-saproling and jasonkrivera: Wow okay I've been misreading the card for so long. Thanks for enlightening me, y'all (and no offense taken king-saproling). Looks like Ancestral Statue is 100% going in, and it looks like I need to read my bloody commander again.
jasonkrivera, about Contamination: I had so much fun with that card until my playgroup realized that they should just kill me as soon as I play it. Because I'm a senior in high school, I rarely have time to actually go to my LGS and it's far more convenient to play within my playgroup of other high school students. Sometimes I wish I had it in the deck still, but then I remember that in my circumstance it's a death wish.
Thanks for the helpful comments both, and now I feel honor-bound to update my deck description to include that I misread it too, even after playing this deck for almost three years now.
February 27, 2020 2:32 a.m.
king-saproling says... #5
Haha you're good Wiggyman. Kudos to you for playing such a unique general along with really spicy tech.
Also I see you have Pitiless Plunderer in the maybes. He's one of the few black aristocrat cards that triggers off of tokens dying, and his effect is really strong. I definitely suggest making room for him in the main
February 27, 2020 8:21 a.m.
This deck looks cool +1 from me Thoughts on these?Endless Cockroaches,Thopter Assembly,Relentless Dead, Phyrexian Reclamation
March 21, 2020 7:11 p.m.
aceofrainbows says... #7
pokemon45: Thanks for the comment! As far as Phyrexian Reclamation goes, I usually don't end up with too many creatures in my graveyard, as I've opted to for the most part limit my sacrificing to the tokens Endrek makes.
As far as the others go, I think Endless Cockroaches and Relentless Dead are a bit too mana-intensive to work super well, but Thopter Assembly is certainly worth a look, because that'll give me 11 tokens a turn as opposed to the much smaller number produced by the others.
Thanks for the upvote!
March 22, 2020 1:56 a.m.
harbingerofduh says... #8
You should really reconsider your dislike for Endless Cockroaches. With Endrek and Phyrexian Altar in play, you can replay the Cockroaches infinitely. This loop will usually end up killing the table through one of your plethora of death triggers/ETB triggers. I'd say it fits with your gameplan way better than something like Dread Presence.
You may also want to consider Fallen Ideal in place of Fallen Angel. Not only is it cheaper, but it can allow you to pull off cheeky wins by enchanting Endrek himself and winning through commander damage.
April 8, 2020 1:14 a.m.
harbingerofduh says... #9
Sorry, two more suggestions:
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Altar of the Brood is another to make use of the zillions of Thrulls you'll be generating every turn. I like it quite a bit in my own Endrek deck.
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Blasting Station will throw your deck into turbo mode. When Endrek spits out a batch of Thrulls, each Thrull will put a Blasting Station untap trigger on the stack simultaneously. You can then respond to each one in turn because you regain priority after each effect on the stack resolves. So: six triggers on the stack, respond to the last one by sacrificing a Thrull to the Station, deal one damage. Then a trigger resolves, untapping the Station. Then respond to the next trigger in line by sacrificing a Thrull to the Station, deal one damage. Rinse and repeat.
April 8, 2020 1:23 a.m.
aceofrainbows says... #10
harbingerofduh: Thanks for the comment! I hadn't thought of cockroaches like that so I'll reconsider (probably in paper as soon as paper magic is possible again). I also like the idea of Blasting Station so I'll check that out as well.
Fallen Ideal is a maybe, and it definitely has upside. My only hesitation is that my commander is already usually a major target, and sticking something on it that could allow me to hit someone for 21 makes it even more so. But it's still worth a look in my opinion.
While Altar of the Brood does mill quite a lot, I think it's a bit unrealistic for it to mill anyone out unless I'm in the middle of going off, in which case I have plenty of other ways to win at my disposal already. I also would rather not help any graveyard-based decks at the table, and it feels like there's usually at least one.
Thanks for the suggestions!
April 8, 2020 1:38 a.m.
aceofrainbows says... #12
Aceh: hi, sorry I didn't get around to responding to this until now. Bontu will be going in shortly, and in fact I bought one a while ago for this purpose! I just haven't gotten around to updating it. Other new additions are going to be Agent of the Iron Throne, Dark Ritual, Braids, Arisen Nightmare, and Malakir Rebirth Flip.
October 13, 2022 11:14 a.m.
It always bugged me that you can't really build around Fallen Empires all that much with Endrek, since he's a throwback card and all. There is Soul Exchange, it's a pretty good reanimation spell if you can count on having a Thrull to sacrifice, maybe worth a look.
Probably a bad card, but Bubbling Muck can generate a ton of mana for something big.
November 1, 2022 3:54 p.m.
There's always the Fallen Empires gem Basal Thrull for the epic phil foglio art and the t3 Endrek
November 7, 2022 12:55 p.m.
Sorry, Kaja Foglio... didn't realize she illustrated as well
November 7, 2022 12:56 p.m.
king-saproling says... #16
Assault Suit could be fun here since it would let you keep endrek out even when you have 7+ thrulls
November 18, 2022 2:12 p.m.
aceofrainbows says... #17
king-saproling: I ran assault suit in the original iteration of the deck, about five years ago, but it was too expensive for its ability most of the time. Plus, in the time between then and now, someone pointed out to me that it would actually draw the game, because Endrek's ability is a static and not triggered, so nothing would ever be able to happen and the game would end in a draw.
aceofrainbows says... #1
seshiro_of_the_orochi: I do remember your comments from a year or so ago. I've been considering Krav, the Unredeemed for a while now, and you make a good point. If I can find one in paper I'll test it out. I'm glad you like the deck!
jasonkrivera: Contamination actually used to be in here, but I took it out because I didn't want to lose all my friends. It's still a hilarious card though.
king-saproling: Oooooooh I hadn't thought about some of those. Aetherworks Marvel seems like a hilarious add, and again, if I can find one in paper I'll definitely try it out. Vindictive Vampire is also definitely a consideration. Dark Prophecy does seem good, but I usually like more control over my life total, so I think I'll pass on that. And what's the Ancestral Statue in there for? Endrek only counts black creatures for the cast ability. Thanks for the suggestions and I'm glad you like the deck!
February 25, 2020 10:57 a.m.