Maybe replace the 2 Erebos, God of the Dead with 2 Read the Bones in your sideboard. You will still get card draw, its cheaper to cast, it can trigger your Young Pyromancer , and you could use it to kill your opponent if he is at 2 life. Plus scrying 2 befor you draw 2 is just so awesome

As for UW control skull crack is awesome and you already have 4. Toil / Trouble is a good one to bring in from the sideboard. and i would have like 3 Pithing Needle they deal with Jace, Architect of Thought Pack Rat and Elspeth, Sun's Champion its a really good card

I must say that I like some of the ideas that came up in here... had a few myself, trying out the same kind of deck - Burn baron bleeds you...; it's all theory and little practise at the moment but have you tried Blood Baron of Vizkopa in there at least? It's definitely an improvement in the bad control matchup!

I see you still like Young Pyromancer ? It was a difficult decision for me - he's wicked on the play but feels really weak on the draw... I settled for appreciating the use of an extra slot.

MrEWolf - Erebos, God of the Dead isn't actually in there for card drawing haha. he's there as an extra out against Life-Gain, Mono black especially has no outs against it.

As for Azorious, this is easily the matchup I've played the least and I feel I got an especially rough ride last time, so I was already wondering myself whether the deck had enough threats and I just drew into none of them haha

iceteademon - Blood Baron of Vizkopa is really interesting, and as often as I've sat across from it I never thought to actually look at it myself haha..
I'm not sure I'd want to run it as more than maybe a 2 of in even the sideboard though as I love the low and fast curve of this deck, a lot of the time I even find myself siding out the Helix's where life gain is irrelevant and just throwing in all the relevant lower cmc threats to go over 60.

Not a big fan of burn decks but this one kicked the pants off my B Devo deck More Black Devo +1

Against U/W control, this one might be a little iffy, but Dreadbore to deal with their wincons of Jace, Architect of Thought and Elspeth, Sun's Champion . Also, maybe a couple Rakdos's Return ? It's consistent with your gameplan of burning your opponent out and also has the upside of causing discard.

Both solid suggestions Nox.LD , and both things I've toyed with before.. I guess since I'm back to running removal in the sideboard I could always go back to dreadbore but it also doesn't hit that pesky Master of Waves ..

As for Rakdos's Return most games I hope I don't see the amount of mana I'd need to play this card well, and I feel that against decks that aren't going to be just hand dumping then I'd usually get more value from toil.. But since I haven't properly tested any of these ideas I could be completely wrong too, what are your thoughts?

I don't know how common it is in your meta, but as I'm thinking about it, Dreadbore also hits G/R Monsters pretty hard, seeing as they run 6 Planeswalkers total and Dreadbore is a quick, easy answer to all their big fatties.

But yeah, I definitely agree with you on Rakdos's Return , I suggested it, then realized that most decks that play it either run more lands or have some form of acceleration (i.e. Jund). What about Duress ? Duress also messes up Mono-Black Devotion pretty hard, although they might sideboard out more of their removal against you as you only run 8 creatures. But since, those creatures are so valuable to your gameplan, I could be wrong.

The only card in your sideboard I don't understand is Rakdos Charm , what exactly is it there for?

I was thinking a bit more about Dreadbore as well, and I'm 100% for it.. It can't hit Master of Waves , sure.. But one of my key cards against MUD is Young Pyromancer , unfortunately Jace, Architect of Thought shuts down the Pyro and his tokens, so there's a huge plus, also Dreadbore hits Nightveil Specter and Frostburn Weird which are other roadblocks in themselves.. Plus I still have Chained to the Rocks if I'm that worried about a Tsunami comin at me haha..

As for Rakdos Charm I am testing this card over Anger of the Gods as a finisher for cluttered board states, against say Green Devotion how many mana dorks and Burning-Tree Emissary do they hand dump? Why not kill them with their own army haha..
The destroy target artifact has been relevant as well though, clearing away lifegain sources like Bow of Nylea and Whip of Erebos , also for those Azorious players, they don't expect to have their Elixir of Immortality destroyed while they're tapped out ;)

I have also thought about Duress and Thoughtseize , I would be all for playing them, even just for what I can expect to be playing against for that particular game.. But I just don't know where to make cuts in my deck :/ As for removal though, Chandra's Phoenix is almost immune, that bird does some nasty things in this deck ;)

Okay, so Mainboard update..

1. I've moved the other Chandra, Pyromaster Mainboard and cut a Boros Charm .
2. I put in 2x Flames of the Firebrand and moved 2x Toil / Trouble to the sideboard
3. Swapped 2x Ultimate Price for 2x Dreadbore in the Sideboard

My reasoning?

1. Boros Charm is the least flexible card in the mainboard, sometimes I just really need to burn out a creature..

   As for the Chandra, Pyromaster , I just haven't seen enough games with them to see their worth, so I'm testing them out Main for the moment to see if there is any matchups which they truly shine in.

2. The case was made to me that Flames of the Firebrand albeit an annoying Sorcery.. can destroy an army of mana dorks / weenies etc, or take out something like Nightveil Specter .. both of which seem good.. so call me Sold!

   As for Toil / Trouble the card is amazing in the right matchup and at the right time.. For my current meta, that is less often at the moment, if midrange and control take over again then I'll likely bring the playset back in, but half measures have just been annoying so far.

3. Once again more Sorceries :(

   However one should never sniff at unconditional removal, especially when it hits Planeswalkers.. The only reason I wasn't already running this, is because it won't hit Master of Waves but he seems a little less trivial at the moment :)

So, let me know what you guys think.. Also just for this weekend I'm going to be trialling 4x Rakdos Cackler in the Sideboard over my usual Boros Reckoner , I want to see if I can up the pressure a bit when I'm on the play, if it's a flop then I'll revert to the ever reliable Reckoner :)

Why do you have Blood Crypt and Swamps in mainboard? I would think maybe just Blood Crypt or Swamps only.

I only have 1 swamp in my board, and it's only because it would be a mountain otherwise.. Back when I was running a lot more black mainboard I found that the 1 extra source helped a bit, and I haven't changed it back because I still side a fair amount in

This is an amazing deck. I actually built one very similar to it the other day to see how it worked out. I ran 4 Guttersnipe instead of 2 Chandra's Phoenix and the Chandra, Pyromaster partially because I do not have the cards, but the extra 2 dmg per Instant/ Sorcery spell really helps ramp up the win. Great job, really like this and can't wait to try it out at FNM myself. +1

I really hate that Last Breath is gaining momentum. It deals with Chandra's Phoenix too well...

Don't drop the Boros Reckoner - for anything! He improves so many of your matchups, and seems to be your last bit of tech left for the aggro games you'll see so often.

One more proposition - if it turns out you like having Rakdos Cackler on the ground, try Soldier of the Pantheon as an option, too. I think he's better in the slot, being generally more powerful. Okay so maybe he's not so much a turn 1 play, but you normally want to start scrying ASAP anyway. Some of the games I've played him in with the white weenie deck are super-impressive!

Yeah, Last Breath has been a little bit of a problem lately.. Funny that I was actually recommending it months ago when playing W/r Aggro for Master of Waves though :/
I ran the board without Boros Reckoner last night, and while I didn't really miss them.. The Rakdos Cackler was just awful, and even though I would have preferred Soldier of the Pantheon , I don't like that I have nearly 0 options of it coming out on Turn 1 haha.

Still haven't had a decent run with Chandra, Pyromaster , I don't know whether it's time to just retire her in favour of something that's going to be more useful.

How are you using her? The deck mostly warrants using her +1 to sneak in a few extra points of damage and threaten an ultimate - I have used it to triple-cast Warleader's Helix at face, which is all kinds of amazing. Using her 0 is less efficient, but an option if she's threatened. She's premium in the control matchup where she gets a good chance of going ulti, or versus mono-white she is actually enough to kill creatures. That extra point might also be the difference between a Lightning Strike and a dead Blood Baron of Vizkopa - and she's your only card advantage source, remember that. Read the Bones might be okay instead I suppose?

I have Erebos, God of the Dead for card advantage as well, though that's not why it's actually in there haha.. I've still barely seen her come up in my deck.. I can only recall casting her 3 times.. ever.

Once I cast her against Dega Midrange, I got a ping and 2 card draws out of her (Had no hand) and then it got destroyed by a downfall.Second I cast her against azorious control, got D-Sphere'd the next turn.Third I cast it against mono-black last night.. Got me a ping and 1 card draw then dead.

The problem I see with Chandra is in the matchups that she's relevant in the most, they are usually holding answers anyway..

i know its kind of a big switch in directions but what about blue insted of black as a splash? Epic Experiment could find a home along with mabey Azorius Charm or Cyclonic Rift in place of the Dreadbore and Toil

Hi [user:Waffles_turn_sideways],
While I think that the Blue splash would certainly be interesting, I'm not sure there is much in the colour that would really complement the deck very well.. Epic Experiment is certainly an interesting choice, but I think it's too mana intensive to be really viable since most games I try not to amass more than 4 lands.

Also, the Black splash was there mostly by chance.. The original Boros Burn deck was already running 4 Temple of Silence and I just thought that a few Doom Blade or Slaughter Games would be really beneficial

The blue splash, I've found, is terrifyingly good. Mostly just because Goblin Electromancer is a great deal better than Young Pyromancer - you think the deck's fast now? I raise you 1-mana burn spells and a 2/2 beater on the ground. With Pyromancer you have to hope for a Shock , wait 'til turn 4, or else play blindly into potential removal to get anything out of his ability. Off the Goblin, though, there's the option of a turn 3 play followed by the burn spell of your choice.

Other interesting blue tech - Turn / Burn , Ral Zarek , Steam Augury and of course Detention Sphere .

Hmm, Electromancer is interesting.. I'm not sure if I'd say he is better than Young Pyromancer .. But I guess if burn to the face was your game plan, it'd allow you to get there a fair bit faster.
Also I almost always blindly drop my Young Pyromancer , the earlier you get him out the more effective he becomes.. Especially if you're on the play, there's not much in my meta that can deal with a threatening creature T2, and then T3 onwards the game plan is just burn your blockers and swing away :)

Heh, maybe I'm a little prejudiced against Chandra's little bro, it's just... in a deck where you have no creatures, a dude dying to removal seems really disappointing. I've gotten so much more value out of him in my mono-red aggro deck that he just completely failed to wow me here.

Don't get me wrong he seems decent against decks with no removal and there are a couple at the moment, he unleashes against them as a value card. But... he just seems so weak otherwise... anyone with T2 removal is going to eat him up straight away, especially MBD where the opps game plan was just to kill your guys anyway. On the draw, you even enable their Putrefies and Downfalls and more besides. So he's effective in less than 50% of game 1 matchups, almost always comes out on the draw, and we have little room to adjust the sideboard to let him be there instead...

Burning face is the way you beat most of the decks that you don't interact with. Against aggro, the burn deck adapts to a control role and blue can eccentuate this as much as black - with card draw power and more besides. Steam Augury is at its best when all your cards are of roughly equal power, especially when it only costs 3.. makes it more like the "draw 2 and a half cards" that it was originally hyped up to be. And drawing in their end step whilst holding threatening removal is a blessing, no doubt. Did I mention Gainsay , too?

Let me know if you think otherwise - it looks to me as if the blue splash has better matchups with MBD, conventional red or white aggro decks, and sacrifices a limited amount of game 1 ability against MUD for substantial post-board lethality. I can appreciate the potential loss of Blood Baron of Vizkopa but he can be Devour Flesh ed if you didn't have a phoenix out... I'd rather have a quicker kill and some Detention Sphere against Pack Rat flooding I think!

You've made some good points, the way I see it when I drop a Young Pyromancer T2, especially against MBD, I'm forcing them to either have an answer (Keeping them from playing their own threats) or letting me have it. And more often than not it lives to see a few turns and a handful of tokens.
The only matchup I would take it out of completely is likely going to be B/g Devotion because they usually run so many Golgari Charm ..

I think the land base for American is not as favourable until Born of the Gods gives us an Azorious Temple, but one of the key cards in my sideboard is also Erebos, God of the Dead just to end life-gain period.. 4 Skullcrack seems good, but I will say that when it's actually relevant 50% I don't even have them in hand.

I think it's an idea worth exploring, but I'm sorry to say it won't be done by me haha.. I was really attracted to Dega at the start of Rotation. I'm a big fan of black as a colour and I think that cards like Slaughter Games could yet find a home in this sort of deck. If you find a deck in your travels of Tapped Out by all means link it though :)

That's exactly the theory I work with when I'm playing against mono-red; less so mono-black, where the only play you're denying is the Pack Rat which you'd like to burn.

You make a point though, the land is slightly dodgy... it's workable, I think, though. You play your off-colours just to splash, really! Here's my list in testing: UWR burnfest if you can help me improve it : )

well, here is my spin on burn useing american colors. pretty drastic step away from the dega but its fun still! and has answers for just about everything! 'MURICAN BURN has to be EPIC!!! would love some feedback or thoughts on it