Unbeaten Budget R/B Deck (T4 Win)

Modern Firemantle_Mage

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What do you exactly mean by "You keep building decks with midrange spell suites and aggroish creature bases"? Cause to me it sounds like my deck building isn't that bad.... XD

December 20, 2015 12:31 p.m.

demonicgrizzly says... #2

He's saying you need to decide what you want to do. Build and aggro deck or build a midrange deck. I was in the same boat when I first started building decks. My creatures and spells had little synergy, and the strategy of the deck was all over the place.

Your creatures are really aggro but your spells are trying to drag the game out.

December 20, 2015 12:39 p.m.

Mogis is too much mana. The Ghor-Clan Rampager suggestion was actually just for the Bloodrush ability. Giving an attacker +4/+4 and trample is really good; you weren't actually meant to play it as a creature.

I really would do a complete rebuild still. If you want to play Budget Rakdos Aggro, here's what I would run:

4 Rakdos Cackler

4 Monastery Swiftspear

4 Spike Jester

2 Gurmag Angler

3 Gatekeeper of Malakir

3 Geralf's Messenger

4 Lightning Bolt

4 Bump in the Night

2 Blightning

4 Duress

4 Terminate or 2 Dismember, 1 Go for the Throat, and 1 Victim of Night

2 Madcap Skills

20 lands, of which 0 COME IN TAPPED. SERIOUSLY DON'T PLAY TAPPED LANDS!!!! They should also be more black than red for Messenger. That list will be about $50 in total, but it will be twice as good as what you currently have.

December 20, 2015 12:39 p.m.

demonicgrizzly says... #4

ToolmasterOfBrainerd that's actually a pretty solid deck hah

I agree with every card suggestion in that list.

December 20, 2015 12:44 p.m.

Thanks! I'd like to suggest Vexing Devil, Goblin Guide, Tasigur, the Golden Fang, Grim Lavamancer, and Eidolon of the Great Revel because they're all great aggro creatures, but budget :(

I'm still a little iffy on Gatekeeper of Malakir and Geralf's Messenger because they're a little bigger than the deck wants to be, and they're kinda pricey, but I can't think of anything better and cheap.

Ooh nevermind I forgot about Jund Hackblade. That card's very playable, so run 4 of him and 2 Grixis Grimblade instead of 3 Messenger and 3 Gatekeeper.

December 20, 2015 12:55 p.m. Edited.

dooblydor says... #6

If your making Rakdos aggro, can't hurt to throw in Ash Zealot

December 20, 2015 1:01 p.m.

dooblydor says... #7

whoops, didn't see u already had it in. >_<

December 20, 2015 1:02 p.m.

I was thinking play something like this: Budget Rakdos Aggro

December 20, 2015 1:13 p.m.

MollyMab says... #9

So when do you want to be on the offensive?

An aggro deck aims to be the aggro deck in all accept the mirror. In the mirror if it has more removal it might try to be the control.

Midrange tries to be the aggro versus control ajd control versus aggro with its postion varying versus combo and midrange dependgly

Basically are you looking to take with 2/2s with a downside for 1 or 2/1s with an upside for 2

December 20, 2015 1:37 p.m.

I swear to god if that god damn Vexing Devil only cost a dollar I would've bought it by now....

December 21, 2015 8:13 a.m.

LeaPlathI don't know..... As soon as the game starts? Please check my deck I already updated it. This is probably the most that I can spend. It has more focus than the previous ones right?

December 21, 2015 8:17 a.m.

-3 rakdos charm (or put the rakdos charm in the sideboard,and mainboard it isn't doing anything for your game plan)

+1 ash zealot

+1 exava

+1 rakdos cackler

December 21, 2015 8:56 a.m.

demonicgrizzlyDone.

I think this deck is done?

December 22, 2015 7:09 a.m.

Uuuuhhhh..... no. I cannot recommend Jund Hackblade enough. Also, with Exava, you have a 4-of legendary creature with cmc=4 in an aggro deck. That doesn't work well. Haste helps, but it's really only a Standard card, not modern-playable. I'd cut that for Hackblade and add more multicolored creatures, such as Tattermunge Maniac. Trust me, it'll help.

December 22, 2015 10:52 a.m.

Yeah dude but I'm not running any greens.

December 22, 2015 11 a.m.

You don't need to. You can cast Hackblade with . mana is unnecessary because it's split mana.

December 22, 2015 11:07 a.m.

Oops. Sorry didn't notice. I'm still thinking about it since my creatures seems to be pretty good already. I replaced my Exava with Rakdos Shred Freak since he was part of the original deck that I made. Can I ask you something? Right now, in a scale of 5 how 'competitive' is this deck? Like I said before this is mostly for casual but I might take it to FNM with me one day.

December 22, 2015 11:17 a.m.

Right now? You might go 2-2 at a fairly casual FNM. You'll never beat any tier 1 decks because, well, they're tier 1. You'll have an okay matchup against most tier 2 decks. If, say, Ad Nauseam can't combo off before turn 4, then you'll win, but if they can combo off by turn 4, they they'll win. It won't win you any tournaments, but I've seen and played worse decks at my FNM before.

The problem with Rakdos Shred-Freak is that its power is right on curve. You want your creatures' power to be ahead of the curve. Spike Jester is a great example because it has 3 power and haste for only 2 mana. Basically you want 1 drops with 2 power and 2 drops with 3 power to keep this competitive, or 2 drops with 2 power and great utility, such as Ash Zealot. Shred Freak's upsides aren't as good as Hackblade's or Ash Zealot's, for example.

I hope that made some sense. If it's confusing (I wrote it pretty quickly and didn't proof-read it) just let me know and I can explain it better. Good luck!

December 22, 2015 11:34 a.m.

I think I understand. Thanks for everything man! Hopefully this deck will make me win in most casual games that I'll play in the future.... I might actually get the Hackblade since it's fairly cheap and I have several cards that I can trade with so hopefully I'll be building this deck cheaper than what is says up there which is $17. I'll just keep on deckcylicng this so it'll get more upvotes. lol

December 22, 2015 11:55 a.m.

dooblydor says... #20

that video is sad :(

anyways, the deck looks cool. one thing i would suggest is Dragonskull Summit as it is pretty cheap, and you have 8 come into play tapped lands.

December 22, 2015 5:41 p.m.

AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! WHY ARE YOU PLAYING LIGHTNING STRIKE!!!!!!!!!! MAKE THOSE LIGHTNING BOLTS IMMEDIATELY NO MATTER THE COST!!!!!!!!!! THERE IS NO COMPARISON BETWEEN THEM AND NO EXCEPTIONS!!!!!!!!


So, once you fix that bolt issue, I'm a little afraid I've been misleading you in terms of what you want to be playing. If you want to be playing full out aggro, then Gruul aggro is almost certainly better. Fact of the matter is that Rakdos just doesn't have the cards to build a playable budget aggro. But, fear not! Because although Rakdos might not have a turn 3 or consistent 4 kill in it, it does have great disruption and an unstoppable turn 5 or occasionally 6 kill. If you want to build a hyper aggro designed for a turn 3 or 4 kill, then switch to Gruul where you get Ghor-Clan Rampager, Burning-Tree Emissary, and a pile of other nasties that can win more quickly. But if you want to play Rakdos, switch over to a slightly slower but very disruptive shell. Make your creature base something like Exava, Rakdos Blood Witch, Rakdos Cackler, Gore-House Chainwalker, and Dead Reveler for your unleash cards, then support it with Spike Jester, Bloodsoaked Champion if you can afford it, and other 1-drop 2 power creatures. Then run 4 Duress, 4 spot removal, 4 bolt, 4 Bump, 2-4 Madcap Skills, and 2 Blightning. I have no idea if it'll be better or worse than the current deck, but what you're trying to do right now feels like a bad idea.

Good luck!

December 22, 2015 8:32 p.m.

That has to be the most humorous reaction to a lightning strike ever

December 22, 2015 8:58 p.m.

I almost threw my computer out the window when I saw those strikes.

OH MY GOD THEY'RE STILL THERE!!!!!!!!!!!

December 22, 2015 10:06 p.m.

I know, i know. Lightning Bolt is way better than Lightning Strike but the last time I checked the binders in the shop they only had Lightning Strike and Arc Lightning. I also know I can get them online but I'm not going to do that since an extra isn't a big pain in my ass. But for god's sake to stop you from posting on all caps, I'm going to change it (so it will also get those upotes). ;-)

Bloodsoaked Champion? Dude are you kidding me? I already have Tormented Hero. Bloodsoaked Champion can't block which is shameful since he's a "champion". And I should tell you this. I am going to make a Gruul deck so thanks for the recommendations.

December 23, 2015 2:57 a.m.

wwhitegoldd says... #25

What exactly is your budget? Because this is a really solid budget gruul aggro deck that is (no offense) much better than your rakdos deck and could probably rack up some wins.

4x Ash Zealot
4x Burning-Tree Emissary
4x Experiment One
4x Ghor-Clan Rampager
4x Goblin Bushwhacker
4x Jund Hackblade
4x Kird Ape
4x Rakdos Cackler
4x Lightning Bolt
4x Flame Slash
5 Forest
10 Mountain
4x Rootbound Crag

It's a bit more than $25 but it's much better.

Also, please stop asking for upvotes and how competitive your deck is. If you ask for help and then don't really listen it leads me to belive that you don't really want help and all you want is upvotes. Tapped out is not about getting upvotes. It's about getting help with your decks or helping others with their decks or just talking with other people. So if you ask for help and people give it to you, you should listen. We will tell you when you have the best deck possible.

December 23, 2015 10:17 a.m.

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