Those were the basic changes i were gonna make. But I was also looking at Azorius Charm. I feel like it could actually do work in this kind of deck. I was also interested in Mirror Mockery and Ojutai's Command. Perhaps this is too much utility. Thanks for the reply.
January 12, 2016 1:15 p.m.
Yeah no problem Nef, always willing to help. Out of the 3 utilities, I like mirror mockery the best. I'm not sure if it would be good with jund/junk out there, but it at least still seems fun.
January 12, 2016 1:57 p.m.
What's your opinion on Azorius Charm perhaps it is a sideboard option? May only be good against certain decks. Mirror Mockery will for sure at least be in my SB
January 12, 2016 2:01 p.m.
I don't think you need Azorius Charm. You already have Ondu Cleric and Lantern Scout, you have removal, and why draw a card if you could just have a different card in your hand. I do like the idea of using the charms in general; check out Dawn Charm, Bant Charm,Evolution Charm, Piracy Charm, Selesnya Charm, Simic Charm. These charms I listed seem to have a lot of synnergy with allies in general.
January 12, 2016 2:25 p.m.
Bant Charm and Simic Charm interest me the most. Although Bant Charm doesn't protect me from boardwipes which I'm most afraid of.
January 12, 2016 3:02 p.m.
Hi I like your idea! Splashing blue instead of black seems promising. Here are some cards which I would recommend to you to consider Cackling Counterpart Call to the Kindred Leyline of Anticipation Tezzeret's Gambit Unified Will and of course as it was mentioned above Mirror Mockery and Jwari Shapeshifter
January 12, 2016 5:32 p.m.
You can always go the red route and splash Boros Charm for board wipe protection.
January 12, 2016 5:33 p.m.
Boros Charm is probably the main reason I want to go with red. It's such an amazing card that it's hard to pass up. My only concern is that the red two drop doesn't utilize Hardened Scales perhaps Taurean Mauler would find a place here?
January 13, 2016 1:32 a.m.
I've always given Akoum Battlesinger a pass. She may not get the counters, but often times makes the t4 win possible. I just changed my All-in-Allies list, taking out vial, adding lantern scout, adding two more lands, etc. Anyway, I was playing last night and found that Akoum Battlesinger+Lantern Scout=awesomeness. ....nuff said... lol
January 13, 2016 6:59 a.m. Edited.
The power of Akoum Battlesinger is undeniable. I have considered Munda, Ambush Leader. I know people have talked about it being decent and I kind of want to try it out. I just feel that running another Gideon or CoCo would be better.
January 13, 2016 7:03 a.m.
What would you say are the merits of Munda, Ambush Leader?
January 13, 2016 7:29 a.m.
It sets up your draw for the rest of the game basically. In an ally heavy deck you basically draw allies the rest of the game. He doesn't die to abrupt decay or bolt. He also has hasted so he is more speedy than gideon.
January 13, 2016 9:54 a.m.
January 15, 2016 10:33 p.m.
Felix.Bamford says... #15
Nice deck. Have you considered Hero of Goma Fada? Very strong effect that would benefit this deck a lot.
January 16, 2016 5:47 a.m.
Hero of Goma Fada is a bit too much mana for my liking. Kabira Evangel basically does the same thing except vs board wipes which is why we run Boros Charm. Thanks for the suggestion!
January 16, 2016 10:42 a.m.
elpokitolama - I changed up the list a bit! Check it out.
January 16, 2016 7:22 p.m.
Felix.Bamford says... #18
Im not seeing a wincon in there at all. How is this deck meant to win? Also I dont think you need so many hardened scales. personally I would run no more than 2 and make room for a big powerhouse card that the deck seems to lack. Maybe a couple of elspeth, sun's champions? I know she is not a direct fit to the ally theme but her +1 is great for chump blockers, her -3 is a board wipe for when things get messy and her -7 will win the game n a creature heavy deck like this. I mean an emblem that gives +2/+2 and flying is pretty OP, Not to mention the has brilliant synergy with the gideons that are already in there. Also with the white core of this deck she would be easy enough to play. If you don't like elspeth then why not an Ajani Vengeant? His ultimate is just as broken and is basically a garunteed win. Or why not an elspeth and an ajani?
Basically your deck needs a win condition that doesnt rely on building up lots of creatures.
January 17, 2016 12:22 p.m.
Johanson69 says... #19
Basically your deck needs a win condition that doesnt rely on building up lots of creatures.
Sorry, but this is flat out wrong. Allies are typically an aggro deck that wins by turn 4 (or earlier with good draws) through strong synergies between our creatures. Diluting the deck with Planeswalkers and other non-Ally spells most certainly weakens the strategy. Especially Elspeth would come out when we intend to already have won, as well as destroying a fair bit of our own creatures (this is a Hardened Scales deck after all). Cards in Modern with CMC >=4 need to have a direct impact on the board or grant a considerable advantage when resolved in order to be considered playable. In my opinion, 26 creatures is already pushing it pretty badly, with 2 Gideons and 2 CoCos being the only reasons I wouldn't suggest necessarily playing more Allies.
On a sidenote, I suspect Firemantle Mage will become much stronger/more necessary (compared to Kabira Evangel) with Affinity and Tron likely taking up Twin's metashare.
January 17, 2016 2:14 p.m.
I agree with Johanson69. The main point of the deck is to build up a lot of creatures, I believe that is a clear win con. And yeah I should probably mainboard a Firemantle Mage. I may take out a Hardened Scales and go to three of them. Do you think I need all four? I often think about going to three. Or maybe take out a Boros Charm. What do you think I should take out for Firemantle Mage?
January 17, 2016 2:21 p.m. Edited.
Felix.Bamford says... #21
take out hardened scales for firemantle. you do not need 4 of them. I wouldnt take out boros charm as it is very versatile and can be that extra 4 face damage.
January 17, 2016 3:33 p.m.
elpokitolama says... #22
Uhm... If I were you, I would play two Ondu Cleric or two Lantern Scout depending on th direction I want the deck to take, but not one of each. The cleric is better in terms of lifegain reliability (and as such in temporization), but the scout hits stronger and will be a much better threat to your opponent.
Also, about the Firemantle issue I would only replace a 3-drop with it (like the automaton), to keep your curve in check. ;)
January 17, 2016 5:04 p.m.
great deck! maybe consider more Lantern Scouts or some Ondu Clerics I would replace them for Adaptive Automaton and Firemantle Mage.I think that the lifes which these cards can generate are needed in every game so I would run any combination of 4 cards which can give you lifes.
February 2, 2016 4:33 p.m.
It's definitely a consideration. I feel as if I want 5 pseudo unblockable effects in the deck tho. After some testing I'll find out. Thanks for the suggestion and taking a look.
February 2, 2016 7:34 p.m.
I've been playing Allies for a bit and I must say that for the most part I like your deck list. However I am curious why you don't run Mirror Entity or Firemantle mage. Does the Harabaz Druid really help forward your strategy of aggressive allies? Do you need 3 of the lantern scout in the main (I do think that it would be good to have 3 Lantern Scouts in the 75, but maybe only 2 in the main). Have you thought of Thalia, Gaddock Teeg, and Eidolon of Rhetoric in the sideboard? I'd like to know your thoughts. Also, I think that Collected Company is a fantastic card though if you switch it out for Aether Vial you have a little more flexibility on using instances, sorceries and enchantments I'm not sure if this is correct, but Hardened Scales, Aether Vial, and Hada Freeblade all make excellent turn one plays.
I am asking for insight as much as I am throwing out suggestions, I am new to the competitive scene and recognize there might be something I am missing.
MadKat says... #1
I think you definitely have the option to take black out and put in blue. Maybe a couple of Jwari Shapeshifter and the blue bird.
January 12, 2016 1 p.m.