I use cockatrice but haven't in a while. I am trying to get aether vials but I'm broke right now so it will take me some time to get them
September 15, 2015 9:30 a.m.
I'm so sorry, this was meant as budget.... dang, my bad. I wasn't trying to come across as a jerk, just had a lot of thoughts. besides the legality of cockatrice, it seems pretty awesome.
September 15, 2015 11:41 a.m.
Haha it's alright! It's mostly the reason I only run 2 colors. I want to splash red badly and I'm gonna the figuring out a way with the new ally land
September 15, 2015 11:58 a.m.
I tell you what, I'm pretty good with coming together with budget lands that work, let me see what I can do.
September 15, 2015 12:05 p.m.
I never had a problem casting CoCo even with the Thickets. Just sayin'.
September 16, 2015 4:32 a.m.
I mean, if you're stuck on three lands, you're up against an aggressive deck, you need to top deck a land to cast coco and swing in for lethal, and you top deck verge, then it's gg. I had this happen to me twice in the daily tournaments.
September 16, 2015 6:38 a.m.
I have yet to draw Thicket as 4th land. Guess that happens sometimes.
September 16, 2015 6:58 a.m.
yeah, idk, it may be worth keeping it in there. esp compared to life lost vs shock lands. But at this point I took it out.
September 16, 2015 7:25 a.m.
I don't really think it's necessary to have. I have never had a mana problem with my current lands. And ondu cleric often mitigates the life loss.
September 16, 2015 7:31 a.m.
True. Are you playing this deck only on cockatrice or in paper too? either way, what is your meta like?
September 16, 2015 7:36 a.m.
I will be playing this in paper soon. I own the entire list except for the BFZ cards obviously. My meta is pretty random but there's a lot of burn, merfolk is pretty popular, I've seen bloom titan, I've seen scapeshift, and tokens.
September 16, 2015 7:53 a.m.
excellent, so you should be able to 4-0, 3-1 at the least. Those are all favorable matchups for ally aggro.
September 16, 2015 8:05 a.m.
Yeah if my draws are good haha I am known for shit draws and having no luck
September 16, 2015 8:38 a.m.
I'm in the process of building out a similar deck. I've got Collected Company in there, but instead of the Hardened Scales route, I'm splashing blue for Mirror Mockery. You might want to consider finding a place for Emeria, The Sky Ruin. Like your take on Allies!
September 16, 2015 12:50 p.m.
Emeria, The Sky Ruin would be for more of the mono-colored ally deck. The fact that it enters tapped and only provides white will be pretty harmful to us. And it requires 7 plains which means 8 lands including emeria. This deck's land count isn't really high enough to achieve that goal of 8 lands and actually be winning still.
September 16, 2015 2:09 p.m.
Yeah, I get where your coming from regarding Emeria. Because I splash for U I get to use both Hallowed Fountain and Temple Garden which gives me the plains necessary to easily get Emeria online.
September 16, 2015 4:11 p.m.
emeria is useless...usually if you dont win earlier before you can use it you will not win at all
September 16, 2015 5:53 p.m.
hasn't been useless to me. I've come back from multiple Damnation through the use of Emeria and Collected Company. I guess you mileage may vary.
September 16, 2015 6:31 p.m.
Johanson69 check out the "non-ally support" section! I just added a little something you might like haha.
September 17, 2015 8:15 a.m.
Johanson69 says... #21
Haha thanks for mentioning me :)
Remember to hit me up if an awesome card comes to your mind and I didn't list it yet, it's supposed to be a resource for all Ally players.
September 17, 2015 9:12 a.m.
aubman02 - Checkout the "other ally decks" tab! I added yours. Do you like the format? Also, if you want to change that short description I give tell me what you want put there.
September 17, 2015 7:42 p.m.
Also, I'm hoping to link the deck the way JLenzen linked the ones in his primer at some point.
September 17, 2015 7:48 p.m. Edited.
Thx Nef! I also appreciate the part encouraging people to upvote it. I'm sure much more people than who upvoted it like the deck, they just may not have upvoted.
I think I need to organize the page: Make it into a primer for the deck, and try to explain my thought processes better.
MadKat says... #1
The reason I made 5 color allies instead of the allies as you listed is because the amount of redundancy for the +1+1 counters. You only have 12 creatures with +1+1 counters, and one gavony township with 21 lands. most decks with township run more lands to affectively use it, but i see you have druid so that may help.
I also think vial is a must for the list, along with hardened scales. I see what other people are doing in the list, but its hard to argue against vial in my opinion: Turn one vial lets you put 2 extra creatures out by turn 4, lets you use evangel better, protecting against removal, and lets you cast another creature even if you coco on turn 4.
I like that you didn't use razorverge thickert. I think it really messes up casting CoCo on turn 4 when you are waiting for that last land.
I personally like dedicating allies to an aggro feel. They don't come across as tempo. When I made the 5 color allies, which i think a lot of the 3 color and 2 color decks are somewhat based off of, I used boggles and merfolk as a template. Meforlk only with the land count, and cmc, and boggles with the redundancy. I think you want a lot of redundancy with this type of allies.
Are you on MODO? Maybe we can play some and I can get a better feel for the green white allies.
September 15, 2015 8:51 a.m.