Whoops I forgot to put in the Ensoul Artifact! Thanks! That's tha missing 4 of
July 30, 2014 11:09 a.m.
UpperDeckerTaco says... #3
You can check out my version if you'd like, Han Ensoulo
August 8, 2014 7:09 p.m.
Khans should bring something wicked to this being as Jeskai (U/S/A) is a supported colour with it's own ability(prowess) anyway
+1
August 19, 2014 1:54 p.m.
It should, and I'm excited to see what it brings. Spoiler season ho!
August 20, 2014 10:04 p.m.
3 suggestions...
1.) Not sure if you've seen but khans spoiled a great new card that's perfect for your deck "ghostfire blade".
2.) Juggernaut doesn't seem good in this deck. Your deck is really built to hit either extreme of the threat curve...i.e. T1 ornithopter tT2 ensoul, OR ramp ramp bla bla bla scuttling doom engine...either really fast or really big and scary. Juggernaught just seems a lil in between and do nothing for what the rest of your deck wants to accomplish.
3.) Springleaf drum over chief engineer any day of the week. It gives your lonely ornitopters a sense of purpose if they haven't been ensouled (just like engineer) and helps ramp you into early bomb artifacts. But it also ramps you into keranos and thassa (and in general gives you access to blue and red mana) . It also gives you another T1 play for a T2 ensoul to target. It gives you another artifact to sac to shrapnel blast and in general synergizes better with the rest of your deck. Also look at your creature base: Keranos and thassa wont ever be active realistically (so cant tap). Generator servant already taps to give you 2 mana. And Doom Engine and Soul are the 2 bombs you're ramping into in the first place. So the only real creatures to convoke with are ornithopter and it's self (juggernaut too currently but I don't think being a convoke creature overrules him being bad for this deck). I know it's tempting to dream the dream of having 3 ornithopters and an engineer out with a doom engine in hand....but you don't have the card draw to really benefit from that kind of a board state long term. So yeah, I doubt engineer will ever really be better for you. The 3 toughness blocker also doesn't matter since you're not on a defensive plan..
Just my 2 cents. :)
September 9, 2014 5:47 p.m.
Thank you for the input DuckDuckG! I plan to run Ghostfire Blade in place of Juggernaut I just haven't gotten around to updating it yet. I see your point with Springleaf Drum . I think I will definitely try it out, and hopefully like it better than Chief Engineer . I'd been battling with the decision of the drum over the engineer, and you are the first person to give a very detailed analysis of the two against each other, bringing up good points, so I thank you for that. I will update this within the next couple days to make these changes. Thanks for the input!!!
September 9, 2014 6:33 p.m.
Absolute pleasure. And good luck with the deck. :)
September 10, 2014 2:32 a.m.
Updated with Springleaf Drum DuckDuckG. Any other points you think are good to make? Are there any Khans cards you think would fit (besides Ghostfire Blade )?
September 10, 2014 2:31 p.m.
check out my deck? +1 my deck won't tag for some reason.. http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/10-09-14-scuttling-boom-engine/
September 10, 2014 3:46 p.m.
I just did actually haha! I left you a comment about 2 seconds before you left me this one! =D
September 10, 2014 3:48 p.m.
Yep, always looking for interactions and things I didn't think about before!
September 10, 2014 4:02 p.m.
Maybe one fewer Thassa? I'm inclined to think that 2 is enough. The legendary rule combined with the fact that you don't have much card draw means that more then one thassa is an especially bad draw for you. Coupled with the fact that is't strictly in the deck for it's abilities and not as a bomb creature. Two seems better. Add an extra ghostfire blade or springleaf drum in it's place.
Besides that I think the build you have is pretty optimal for what you're trying to do, unless something else gets spoiled. I'm toying with a similar brew but it's more aggro, so instead of the generator servant and doom engine plan I'm filling out my curve with Rabblemaster etc. But that's a completely different kind of deck.
Your deck looks great and I'm keen to hear how it plays in the real world!
September 10, 2014 4:06 p.m.
I added the extra Thassa for now to playtest with it. I felt I wasn't drawing Thassa often enough before, so I wanted to see if the third was useful. If it turn out to be too much I think Ghostfire Blade will definitely get an extra copy. Thanks for the input guys, keep it up!!
September 10, 2014 6:08 p.m.
DeltaSR388 says... #16
Having the threat of a turn two 5/5 beater with Ornithopter + Ensoul Artifact or Darksteel Citadel is just insane and I just love the idea behind the deck. +1
September 11, 2014 6:02 p.m.
You are missing Chief Engineer in your list and if you are looking for sideboard cards your choice #1 should be Phyrexian Revoker . It will help you mainly against Plansewalkers. I would give a kingdom for couple of them in my last tournament. In worst case scenario you can drop the Ensoul Artifact on it. I am trying to play this deck as well and struggling with mana flow which in my case is just pure being unlucky but I like your Gods there so I might go for them.Btw. Hour of Need is a neat card into this deck as well.
September 13, 2014 1:59 p.m.
I just took out the Chief Engineer s in the deck actually. The use of Springleaf Drum allows me to ramp to Keranos as well as my Doom Engines and Souls. While I can only ramp one man a at a time with each drum I want to experiment with the drums because the 1/3 body on the engineer is not useful to me, and the drum can be a 5/5 if I use Ensoul Artifact on it. Also it curves the mana better because it fills the one spot instead of continuing to crowd the two spot. He may come back but for now I would like to test the drum.
September 13, 2014 2:39 p.m.
Curious to hear what kind of results you''ve had with Illusory Angel: do you find yourself reliably casting it turn 3?
Also, how does Keranos, God of Storms fit in with the deck's theme? I am considering one for my sideboard but am unsure what purpose he would serve.
Really digging this deck type, so it's always good to see another. Doesn't seem like there's a lot of consensus on how to build it so it's fun seeing what everyone has done!
December 17, 2014 4:04 p.m.
taebby - Illusory Angel is great with Ornithopter or other cheap cards. Not too hard to cast on turn 3, depending on how you play your thopters. If you have no Springleaf Drum, you can hold it in hand to drop it turn 3. Otherwise you can get the Angel out by playing a drum or something else cheap first, and still being able to play a 4/4 flier as well. Keranos is sweet because he draws you cards or he gets rid of their blockers. Either one of those options are great. I love the Thassa in there as well since it allows better drawing, and can make an animated Darksteel Citadel unblockable as well.
December 17, 2014 4:08 p.m.
dusktreader749 says... #21
With FRF coming out renowned weaponsmith is a preaty good switch with chief engineer
January 14, 2015 2:38 p.m.
Always_Red says... #22
EXCUSE ME Chief Engineer is the picture for your deck, but you are not playing it? IT IS VERY GOOD WITH ORNITHOPTER! definitally play four of
itsdarsh says... #1
Uh you only have 56 cards in your deck... :P
Definitely add Ensoul Artifact as it turns your zero-drop Ornithopters into two-drop 5/5 artifacts with flying, though based on your description it seems like you wanted to add these anyways. As for the sideboard, throw in some counterspells (Negate and Essence Scatter are both very good and you can sub it in based on the situation). Hoarding Dragon is also fun as it's a tutor with a 4/4 flying body.
July 30, 2014 11:06 a.m.