U/W Control (6 Top 4s @ FNM, 3rd @ Swampcon)

Standard OnyxMyr

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Aethos says... #1

That looks really good! I don't know if you really want 6 win cons though. I would consider cutting them back to 4, that should be more then enough. I wouldn't touch AEtherling , my choice would probably be putting the angle in the sideboard.

I'm exicted what Theros brings for this deck :)

August 23, 2013 11:53 a.m.

OnyxMyr says... #2

Huttfuzz, I have considered those card but really the Haunted Plate Mail didn't seem strong enough to me. Mutavault worried me since I really don't want to be drawing a colorless mana land when turn two I want to be able to always either Azorius Charm , Syncopate , or Cyclonic Rift my opponent. If this were a little more of an aggressive deck though I would probably put in the mutavaults.

Aethos, I just wanted three different win cons so that way I can't be put out of the game with Slaughter Games unless my opponent both sides-in and gets off all three of them without me using Syncopate or Render Silent . I do like Jace, Memory Adept a lot and he usually ends games quickly but the Angel of Serenity is really good because if my other Angel or an AEtherling got sent to the graveyard for whatever reason, I can grab them back out and still exile two of their creatures. It was also really good against the Selesnya Midrange deck I often play against because it just outright kills their token creatures, although so does an overloaded Cyclonic Rift .

As always I'll take your suggestions into consideration, for sure. Thanks guys!

August 23, 2013 3:58 p.m.

Aethos says... #3

Slaughter Games is almost always a sideboard card and I wouldn't kill the angle just put it on the bench, against decks you fear a slaughter games you just side the angle in. Your AEtherling shouldn't really die, you only play him with enough mana to phase him out and in a mirror you should be able to back him up with a counterspell. Your deck will certainly play out nicely either way.
The problem with angle is, if they picked up a removal spell somewhere in the game it will kill the angle because they have no other possible target to blow it on earlier and most good deck have some way to remove a thread. In this very likely scenario you would've paied 7 mana to bounce 3 creatures on either side, not something i would consider a save wincon. They could even destroy your angle as a reaction to the ETB effect to exile your other win con forever (like flickering a Fiend Hunter at the right time). That would be an anti win con :D (that might be a rather unlikely scenario, but I would try that just for the lulz!).
Again I really dig the mainboard right now and the angle doesn't bother me too much, just if I were the coach I would bench her :D

August 24, 2013 4:44 a.m.

Zelisius says... #4

Love the deck. +1.

Only thing Id sudgest is getting your 3x Blind Obedience MD. Cards amazing. The extort is a life saver and basically won all my games. NTM, it hurts haste/aggro

August 24, 2013 10:05 a.m.

Aethos says... #5

Blind Obedience isn't a mainboard card. It Only is usefull against haste decks, other aggro decks just don't care. Then you're left with an extort trigger for 2 mana, that's just so underwhelming. Therefore it's use is much too narrow to be a mainboard card, it's a nice sideboard card against haste aggro.

August 24, 2013 11:10 a.m.

Zelisius says... #6

How about adding in a few Quicken ?It would allow you to play Supreme Verdict on thier turn plus add to your card draw.

August 30, 2013 9:42 a.m.

OnyxMyr says... #7

I have considered Quicken but really just being able to cast Supreme Verdict on their turn hasn't really seemed as useful to me as just countering or bouncing their creatures on their next turn. As for the draw aspect of it, I'm usually okay with the Sphinx's Revelation and Jace, Architect of Thought (and sometimes Azorius Charm if super necessary) to get some card advantage. Thanks for the additional input, Zelisius!

September 1, 2013 12:40 a.m.

Zelisius says... #8

I see what you're saying. I mainly used it for the mind game aspect. They see you have the mana to board wipe, but you pass turn instead. So they assume you don't have a board wipe then all of a sudden, you nuke the field. I eventually took mine out for a third Gideon and a second memory adept though for the same reasons you just mentioned.

September 1, 2013 1:57 a.m.

sladkosan says... #9

Hi OnyxMyr, thanks for sharing this deck. As somebody who hasn't played Magic for a loooong time it is really good for perspective. I'm experimenting with blue-white control myself, and like the discipline here on the number of creatures and planeswalkers. +1 from me - look forward to hearing how this plays.

September 1, 2013 4:57 a.m.

Huttfuzz says... #10

Hey guys, now that we have seen Elspeth, Sun's Champion, i think i would like to run her in this deck. something like this 3x Jace, Architect of Thought and 1x Elspeth.

Side 2 more Elspeth , if they have big green or Rakdos deck with 4 power creatures.

What do you think. I really think she is playable in a control deck at 6 mana and her -3 is amazing.

September 1, 2013 9:38 a.m.

Zelisius says... #11

Her -3 is nice, but we already have Supreme Verdict .Now, her +1 is quite nice and gives you the ability to form an army post verdict. Problem is, we have a 6 drop already with AEtherling , whom can kill alot faster. If anything, she's probably best as a sb card vs big creature heavy decks. Just my opinion though.

September 1, 2013 12:26 p.m.

OnyxMyr says... #12

Thanks for the kind comment, sladkosan. Best of luck with your own deck and I'll definitely keep updating this as I play against other decks during FNM.

I kind of agree with Zelisius that I would only consider the new Elspeth, Sun's Champion for my sideboard because I would already be siding in AEtherize against those types of creature-heavy decks (and Blind Obedience if there is a lot of haste). I would prefer to have AEtherling or Jace, Memory Adept in as my win con as of right now. Let me know how she works for you when you get her, Huttfuzz.

I am, however, considering Voyage's End (1U, Instant, Return target creature to it's owner's hand. Scry 2) as a mainboard option. Thoughts on that card or any other Theros spoilers? Thanks everyone.

September 1, 2013 12:59 p.m.

Zelisius says... #13

Could possibly remove 2 Detention Sphere and a single Cyclonic Rift and Azorius Charm for 4.

I don't know how I'd fit those into my version of this.. I'd prolly take out a single rift and charm for atleast 2 copies.

September 2, 2013 12:08 a.m.

Jacques says... #14

Have you thought about adding a Silence or two to your deck? It may seem not that good but if you save the one mana for it and play it right after their draw step it can completely lock down their plays for the turn (other than spells played in response), which can save you a lot of life, if not the game.

September 8, 2013 12:03 a.m.

OnyxMyr says... #15

I have considered Silence before, but now with the spoilers that are coming out for Theros, it would have come out anyway.

I will be trying out:minus 4x Render Silent plus 4x Dissolve

I also kind of want to put Omenspeaker into the deck but I'm not sure what to take out. My first thought was to remove one of two of the Angel of Serenity , but thoughts would be appreciated.

September 10, 2013 11:56 a.m.

sladkosan says... #16

I think he would be good for Angel of Serenity .

Not a game breaker by any means, but seems pretty efficient making you more likely to get (for example) your Plains or Angel of Serenity at the right time.

Given he is also about deck efficiency, you could look at losing 1x Sphinx's Revelation - although I know people love that card...

Do you know what his / stats are? Can't see on this page, and only realised from your post that the spoilers came out.

September 10, 2013 2:06 p.m.

sladkosan says... #17

By the way are you considering Thassa, God of the Sea or Thassa's Emissary . Hard to beat a God!

September 10, 2013 2:24 p.m.

Feldspar09 says... #18

Interesting take. I have a post rotation UW Control list up myself. Has the Omenspeakers in it if you wanted that look. Our lists are doing slightly different things, but you have some cards I really want to try out...namely Cyclonic Rift. I like your threat density, although I would consider moving Big Jace to the sideboard...only because I do think Elspeth really is that good and I'm stoked to give her a shot.

I'm excited to play control post rotation because I think counterspells will be great again, and your list is heavy on them, like mine. Good stuff, I expect to see a lot of aggressive red based decks in the first couple weeks, and this looks strong against them.

September 10, 2013 6:36 p.m.

OnyxMyr says... #19

@sladkosan, I will not be putting in Thassa since I will not be able to build the devotion for her. I think she fits in a different kind of deck than mine. Also Omenspeaker is a 1/3 for 1U that lets you Scry 2 when it ETB.

@Feldspar09, I will take a look at your list for sure. I think Cyclonic Rift (overloaded) will be very good post-rotation for messing up all of the devotion your opponent has been trying to build. I mostly enjoy it too because it gives me the chance to counter something they've already played if I Rift it and then have a counter ready turn 4 or 5. Best of luck with your U/W deck and let me know how it goes.

September 11, 2013 11:25 a.m.

OnyxMyr says... #20

I have changed the deck to reflect what I am hoping to have after the Theros release, except I haven't found a spot for the Omenspeaker s and I am considering going 4 Dissolve instead of 2 Dissolve and 2 Render Silent . The previous version of the deck which includes 4 Render Silent and 2 Angel of Serenity (Angel was dropped for Elspeth, Sun's Champion ) will be what I take to FNM tonight if there are enough people to participate. Let me know what you all think. Thanks.

September 13, 2013 3:08 p.m.

OnyxMyr says... #21

Additionally, the 4 Azorius Guildgate s will become 4 of the U/W scryland that will hopefully come out in the second part of Theros block, Born of the Gods.

September 13, 2013 3:10 p.m.

TorrentFreak says... #22

I am building a similar deck, I think your manabase can afford a couple Mutavault .

September 27, 2013 9:30 a.m.

Mutavault doesnt sound bad, especially since it would survive a Supreme Verdict . Jace, Memory Adept seems a little extra though. Oh, and maybe consider Haunted Plate Mail ? Its another Supreme Survivor and you can always just equip it to your creatures when they swing to get closer to your normal win con.

October 5, 2013 12:33 p.m.

OnyxMyr says... #24

I have added two Mutavault and dropped one Jace, Memory Adept for another Jace, Architect of Thought . Thanks for the suggestions.

October 5, 2013 5:08 p.m.

26hungb says... #25

I would run 3x Glare of Heresy in the sideboard for Voice of Resurgence and other white spells. I also run 4x Gainsay in side board against other control or mono blue devotion decks.

October 26, 2013 1:33 a.m.

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