slayingmatt1234 appreciate the thoughts! The reason why I have Sundering Growth is for the possibility of creating an additional 8/8 token that I can get from Grove of the Guardian. I do like the idea of switching out Rebuff the Wicked for Gods Willing. I did have a Nylea, God of the Hunt in here originally, but only having one didn't make much sense to me since the probability of drawing it was pretty slim. I thought about either putting 2 in or getting a couple Time of Need but had other cards I wanted in the deck so I kind of scraped that idea.
I am intrigued about taking out 2 Knight of New Alara for 2 more Wilt-Leaf Liege. I am also considering adding Swords to Plowshares, just trying to keep the deck at 60 cards so need to work some stuff in while leaving other stuff out.
November 9, 2017 8:59 a.m.
slayingmatt1234 says... #3
Well, my only comment to that is that Swords is not a modern legal card (I don't know if that matters to you but your deck says modern format). If you don't want to pay for Path to Exile, Journey to Nowhere is a pretty good substitute. Your creatures should also be big enough or indestructible with Fleecemane Lion so you can probably run some good fight removal like Dromoka's Command.
Another trample giver you could put in instead of Primal Rage is Selesnya Charm, which can even make a token for populate. I just don't like Primal Rage because paying 2 mana and a card for no tempo seems bad against both an aggro or a control deck. With cards like Nylea and Selesnya Charm you can still get value/board presence even when you have no creatures. But then again I also don't know your meta, so take this with a grain of salt.
November 9, 2017 11:20 a.m.
Memphismaymagic5 says... #4
Cool deck but you need some removal. Like already suggested, the best option is a playset of Path to Exile. I know it's not cheap for an uncommon, but it is such a strong card and once you have a playset of Pte, you can use it all your future decks that include white (for example Azorius Control, Abzan aggro or midrange, mono white Weenies, Soul Sisters and other lifegain decks,...).
Have you considered Qasali Pridemage? It is a real staple card in G/W/x builds and great against a lot of decks (e.g. decks that use Blood Moon, Bitterblossom, Cranial Plating,...). You can even play it mainboard because, not considering its first effect, Pridemage is also a 2/2 G/W multicolored creature for only 2 mana with exalted!
November 18, 2017 11:41 a.m.
@Memphismaymagic5 I have been going back and forth on if I want to spend the money on Path to Exile, but after some thought I do think I will pull the trigger on a playset. It is evident I lack removal so hopefully this will change that.
Also Qasali Pridemage has been in my sideboard, which I don't list, but I did some maneuvering to include at least 2. I do like his versatility. Thanks for the comments, much appreciated!
November 18, 2017 8:07 p.m.
APPLE01DOJ thanks for the suggestion! I'd be lying if I said I hadn't thought about adding Accorder Paladin in, but I'm not sure what it would replace.
December 11, 2017 9:38 p.m.
APPLE01DOJ says... #9
Move Natural State to the SB and cut KotR down to 2. It's a great card but your list isn't optimized for it.
December 11, 2017 10:59 p.m.
great deck, I would recomend using rancor, unflinching courage, become imense, giant growth, mutagenic growth, etc.
January 4, 2018 9:48 a.m.
ToolmasterOfBrainerd says... #11
The first thing I notice is that this deck lacks 1-drops. Since you're trying to be aggro, you pretty much have to play 1-drops or you'll be left behind by every deck in the format. Noble Hierarch and Aether Vial are the 2 best, however they're prohibively expensive. I'd recommend 4 Birds of Paradise and 4 Dryad Militant .
February 19, 2018 10:11 a.m.
you should defenitely lower your mana curve 4 drops with 20 lands is generaly not a good Idea
For your sideboard. Rest in Piece and Stony Silence are very strong sideboard options you should have 2-3 of them I Think. Maybe 2 Nature's Claim if you need to destroy artifacts or enchantments (you already have pridemages in the maindeck so they kight be to much) Kataki, War's Wage is also good against artifact decks (lantern and affinity for example)
Blessed Alliance is good against burn and bogles for example
Burrenton Forge-Tender and Kor Firewalker are also brutal against burn. (of course you should devote to much of your sideboard for one specific matchup)
Ethersworn Canonist , Eidolon of Rhetoric , Rule of Law and Silence are good against combo decks especially storm
Leyline of Sanctity is strong against a variety of decks
there are also a lot of green lifegainspells but lifegain is only relevant against brun most of the time so you should have to much
Scavenging Ooze is pretty flexible it gets big is graveyard hate and lifegain in one card.
in general i wouldnt play to many creatures in xour sideboard because your opponents are likely to play additional removal or board whipes against you and you dont want to expose your sideboard cards to the things your deck is weak to
February 19, 2018 10:37 a.m.
Thanks for the recommendation AcceleratedButchery! I've thought about adding him to the mix. He is pretty costly so if I do I would add in 1 copy, but he is definitely in the conversation.
February 28, 2018 4:05 p.m.
Dryad Militant can defenitely be in your maindeck.Blind Obedience is not a good sideboard card in general.
you could add another Stony Silence and something like Natural State or Naturalize for destroying enchantments and artifacts.
you already have a few lifegain spells (maindeck and sideboard) which should make your burn matchup relatively easy. Thas why I dont think you need Kor Firewalker because he is only good against burn and you are already pretty strong against it as I mentioned Blessed Alliance is more versatile than the firewalker and costs the same amount of mana you want swap those cards.
i still feel that something like Rule of Law or Eidolon of Rhetoric is needed in your main deck
February 28, 2018 5:11 p.m.
@ lukas96 thanks for the suggestions! I've been going back and forth as to if Safehold Elite is worth the room in this deck, so I've been swapping out Dryad Militant constantly as I play test. Overall I do think the Dryad provides a greater board presence overall. But I do love keeping my persist guys on the battlefield. Wondering now without them if Melira is still worth keeping in my main deck.
I've added another Stony Silence and a Naturalize too, which I planned on doing anyways. I see what you mean about the Firewalker. I just don't know about Rule of Law or Eidolon of Rhetoric and if I see room in this deck for them, tho they are 2 great cards. Guess I'd have to do some playtesting there.
February 28, 2018 6:26 p.m.
ZendikariWol says... #17
There's a really neat mono-G variant of this deck, I'll link it here. This May Also Be a Problem.
That being said, I am in into the woods, and I love to see a good shoutout. I'm Jack btw.
March 5, 2018 3:15 p.m.
I think you could benefit from having Knight of the Reliquary somewhere in the deck, as it's a great semi-aggro card that enables you to go more mid-gamey if need be.
Granted aggro is not playing with any amount of mid game so I don't know if that's what you're looking for. I like the saffi and renegade rallier combo, which I can see in the list, sorta. that only needs something like Blasting Station to truely go infinite however that doesn't do much to make this clock faster...
The list looks pretty good for what you want, but I don't know if it is better than adding Collected Company and going with a mid-range list, which is close to what you have.
In any case, great deck! Good luck! +1
March 20, 2018 1:14 p.m.
Leyline of Sanctity can wreck the whole plan for some decks - bring a couple of them in sideboard, if you expect to see much discard or burn.
March 21, 2018 2:59 a.m.
Divinity_infinitum says... #20
I would add x4 Knight of the Reliquary and maybe 1-2 Courser of Kruphix. Also you should add in more fetches to thin the deck and if you decide to run knight then to buff her and definitely add in x2 Ghost Quarter
March 28, 2018 2:34 p.m.
I think this looks super solid! Something interesting to think about/consider would be Glittering Wish to have access to some SB silver bullets like Fracturing Gust/Wheel of Sun and Moon/Privileged Position/Sigarda, Host of Herons/Sigarda, Heron's Grace and things like that.
April 13, 2018 2:25 p.m. Edited.
@ Flooremoji I had one in my deck for the longest time but I rarely found myself using its ability, so basically it kept leaving me with a colorless land that would actually end up doing me more harm than good by stalling what I want to do each turn. Gavony Township is a great card if I pull it later in the game, especially having it to remove a -1/-1 counter from my Finks, but early on it ends up being mostly a dead card for me in this specific deck, since the majority of my creatures don't require colorless mana in their casting cost. I'm sure I'll add it back in at some point, but not with the current decklist I have.
May 8, 2018 3:44 p.m.
Flooremoji says... #24
fair reasoning, I don't think it's great either, but it is the namesake!
slayingmatt1234 says... #1
Hey man, I see that you are a Selesnya fan! Being one myself, and seeing you want some deck help, let me give you some general advice.
I actually made my own 50-60$ Selesnya deck for a casual series I made for my friends, which you can check out here (by the way, please check out the rest of the decks out in my budget series. I made one for each guild). I'll just give you a few suggestions from that deck which should help you.
Instead of Sundering Growth, I run Qasali Pridemage because unlike growth, since you don't have any tokens the cat wizard should give you more board presence.
Instead of Rebuff the Wicked, if you are trying to protect your creatures I recommend you run either an aura that protects them like Shield of the Oversoul or a spell like Gods Willing, because not only is it cheaper $ wise, but it can make a creature effectively unblockable for a turn if you like. Dauntless Escort also has a similar ability to Reknit, although I guess you can see it coming, unlike an instant.
Similarly, Primal Rage could be turned into more offensive power with an Unflinching Courage instead. If you want the passive to all creatures, perhaps a one-of of Nylea, God of the Hunt would be best. She is great with Wilt-Leaf Liege because the liege adds 3 green devotion.
Some other general advice I can make is that I think you would be much better off dropping the Knight of New Alaras and instead upping Wilt-Leaf Liege to a 4-of, because unfortunately the human knight is boltable unless buffed while the elf is not. I also recommend putting in some better removal. My deck has a bunch of options you can consider for that. Also, Tireless Tracker is another card worth considering. Hope this all helps! Feel free to ask me if you need any more help.
November 9, 2017 12:35 a.m.