Vampire's stay midrange

Modern* keyb

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Xica says... #1

On the other hand Victim of the night isnt gonna screw you over, in case someone casts Emrakul, the Promised End - or uses Mindslaver (without having Academy Ruins - that may become an important consideration, since the new emrakul is perfectly fitting into jund like shells as a late game finisher.

October 2, 2017 12:38 p.m.

Hero's Downfall is too much mana to run at more than 2, and you have gatekeeper for your 3 mana killspell anyway. I say 4 Fatal Push, 4 Victim/Plank/Go for the Throat is the way to go. Or if you went Rakdos you have Bolt and Terminate, two of the best cards in Modern.

October 3, 2017 3:12 a.m.

Xica says... #3

YamishiTheWickedOne

Currently the "instant speed" is highly overrated. Currently the format lacks threats that can only be dealt with instant speed.
An being able to destroy Liliana of the Veil, Chandra, Torch of Defiance, or Nahiri, the Harbinger is really strong, thus Dreadbore >>>>>>> Terminate

October 3, 2017 4:32 a.m.

Xica, you've had this argument with myself and many other users before as to why instant speed is so important. There are a lot of reasons. They should be obvious given how many other users have spelled it out to you.

I don't mean to be rude and I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just tired of having this tired old Dreadbore vs Terminate argument. Despite Push existing, Terminate is as popular as it ever has been in lists like Jund. There's a reason for that.

October 3, 2017 4:49 a.m.

keyb says... #5

Could i play 1 off a board clear inn main? Like bontus, agaisnt elve's and afinity?

October 3, 2017 2:55 p.m.

keyb I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.

The only time sorcery speed removal is used competitively is when it's something like Maelstrom Pulse or Collective Brutality. Not only does it hit something, it hits multiple important somethings at the same time, and in Brutality's case it can slow down burn as well, all while dumping cards you want in your grave. Or otherwise it's like Supreme Verdict orPyroclasm/Anger of the Gods or Damnation, because there are very few instant boardwipes to begin with. Even in the case of Gatekeeper of Malakir, that forces a sacrifice and leaves a 2/2 floater, which is value. There are things you want your targeted removal to do, and sorcery speed removal only does a few of those many things. This is why Terminate is and has for a long time been played while Dreadbore has never seen the light of day in a serious tournament. Hero's Downfall is almost strictly better just for being an instant even if it is 1 more mana. Honestly if you want to stay monoblack just run something simple like the cards I mentioned earlier.

October 4, 2017 6:43 a.m.

keyb says... #7

Thanks! That cleared alot of what i was thinking, going to play the deck inn the local tournement here. Then put inn some more cards. Appreciate all the good feedback! Someday i might go red, but i want too stay midrange. And ya i defently need 1 more instant removal that hits almost anything. Like victim of night, thoughtseize take some threats, but inn late game it might be too late.Cheers!

October 4, 2017 7:55 a.m.

Honestly red gives you better control options. Olivia Voldaren, Lightning Bolt, Terminate, Kolaghan's Command and Stromkirk Captain are all top tier in a deck like this.

October 4, 2017 10:14 a.m.

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