Vampirism Isn't About Petty +1/+1 Counters
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VampiricJace says... #2
Viscera Seer is a constant scry outlet, that lets me sac Bloodghast multiple times a turn under the right, easy-to-make conditions. I know there are better ones but a) she's a 1 drop and b) she's a vampire that combos with both Kalastria Highborn and Cavern of Souls and c) her scry gets me to the things I need, like lands or Blood Tribute. She is very much integrated into the synergy, and will not be taken out based on how successful this deck is. Thanks for the thought tho! :P
April 12, 2015 10:51 a.m.
i like this deck cuz even know its heavily theme its got alot going on for it. phyrexian obliterator would be a good sideboard for this. i could imagine wanting to sideboard a Dark Prophecy out for it against decks that somewhat rely on burn as removal. cuz they gonna have to use answers for all the little creatures in this deck right away if they dont want a bunch of crazy stuff to happen to their face haha. it could be a powerful win con if they cant remove it safely but thats why id probably only sideboard. maybe not with the decks u play against but it'd be pretty relevant against the decks i play against(kitcken table top magic). in games without burn spells id be thinking i want more 1-2 fetchlands to filter/help bloodgast. since urborg tomb in there id feel okay about reducing a 1-2 swamps for em. dash hopes is little iffy in my opinion 5 damage for 2 could make all your threats more threatening closing it out early but if what there playing is important enough its happening. dont get me wrong i like the card and id leave 2 in side prob if i owned this deck i just wouldnt feel bad about bumping the 3rd one out for maybe obliterator/inquistion/duress/4th thoughtseize. just some thoughts
April 12, 2015 7:30 p.m.
Bloodghast is so insane theres so many ways to abuse him and vengevine and other graveyard friends but hes the easiest to play from grave
April 12, 2015 7:37 p.m.
VampiricJace says... #5
Funny story about Phyrexoan Obliterator...I've acquired these cards over many years cause my budget is a little tight:P But thanks for that! I'm definitely going to consider him, along with a 4th Thoughtseize. And the lands...which I'm kinda surprised I haven't already bumped up the number of Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoths and fetchlands - though I run four already. Imma need to get my hands on some Bloodstained Mires...
And yeah, this deck started out as a casually themed B/R Vampire deck, and over the years have made small improvements - to the point that mot a single original card remains.
April 12, 2015 8:55 p.m.
Coinman1863 says... #7
What about Cabal Coffers? with all the swamps you have, this is usually more reliable than Nythios because once you have 3 swamps, this card only gives value. Also Urborg and Cabal Coffers are an awesome combo.
April 15, 2015 12:14 p.m.
I'd exchange the 2 Grave Pact for 2 Phyrexian Obliterator. If creature removal is so important, i don't see the consistency of this aspect in your deck with only 2 Grave Pact and 1 Innocent Blood.
April 15, 2015 1:51 p.m.
VampiricJace says... #9
Coinman1863: Yes, I didn't know that card existed. Sweet! I'll look into it.
ItalicMo: This entire deck is focused around sacrificing, not just Innocent Blood. Read the description, please, and notice how everything synergizes with sac-Ing my own creatures:P
April 15, 2015 5:10 p.m.
I've read your description more than once, I really like the deck and gave it a +1. You missunderstood me. I didn't want to say that Innocent Blood is the only card triggering Grave Pact. I said that the only 3 cards that can be considered as creature removal are 2 Grave Pact and 1 Innocent Blood.
Cheers!
April 15, 2015 5:21 p.m.
VampiricJace says... #11
ItalicMo: Ah, my apologies!! I see. Well, my experience (I've been playing this for some years, whether it was proxied or not:P) I've found that Grave Pact has been more than adequate in my metagame. With the scry from Viscera Seer, I get to it fairly quickly and there is some additional removal from Sorin Markov. However, I lack a lot of professional competitive play and perhaps that amount isn't enough for most tournaments...thus, I look to the sideboard. What would you suggest other than the Obliterator? Some people have found Dash Hopes not worthy, but I don't know what to replace it with.
April 15, 2015 6:46 p.m.
Coinman1863 says... #12
Im not sure how fast you want your deck but one of the best hard to remove sac outlets is High Market. It's a land you can sac to and as an added bonus it gains you one life. And if you dont want to sac, then you can use it for 1 mana.
April 15, 2015 9:32 p.m.
VampiricJace says... #13
Coinman1863: I've toyed around with High Market, but the more I playtest with it, I find that my black-mana producing land is stretched pretty thin during the times I can't find Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth. I'll add it to the MB and play with it again (through irl proxy).
April 15, 2015 11:10 p.m.
VampiricJace says... #14
In other news, I'm gonna find the coin and add Cabal Coffers via la suggestion. Thinking about replacing Lake of the Dead, or maybe just a single Swamp. If I have Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, the minus 1 basic land is pretty irrelevant.
April 15, 2015 11:15 p.m.
VampiricJace To be honest I'm a Commander player only but maybe I'm gonna build this deck for our local Legacy FNM. Regarding Dash Hopes it seems quite good since it brings your opponent half way to the important 10 life mark where your Bloodghasts get haste. But maybe you should get feedback from a experienced Legacy player.One thing i know about Legacy meta is that it is full of Wastelands. I don't know how to handle that.
How do you mulligan? I guess you want to keep Dark Ritual, Viscera Seer, Buried Alive, Entomb, Thoughtseize, bloodartist ?
April 16, 2015 4:56 a.m.
Coinman1863 says... #16
I would drop Lake of the Dead because it is only good in ramp strategies like my deck, Hardcast Emrakul, or Exsanguinate for 35? You pick. Since your highest CMC is 6, unlike mine where it is 15, it is kind of unnecessary to have a Lake of the Dead in this deck unless you want another Wasteland target.
April 16, 2015 5:49 a.m.
VampiricJace says... #17
ItalicMo: I mulligan if I don't have at least two of any of these: Buried Alive + Dark Ritual , Bloodghast, Entomb, Viscera Seer, Blood Artist or Kalastria Highborn. Again, my lack of competitive play is a bit of a bust :x. The Wasteland metagame seems at first unideal, but since a number of my non-basic lands are legendary, I already go into the who self-land destruction (ie playing another Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx after already activating one).
Coinman1863: That is sound reasoning. Especially with the mention of Wasteland, giving up my own basic lands is sketchy. Lake of the Dead is out. I initially had it cause Exsanguinate had been in this deck for a long time, but was removed for more competitive cards instead of trying to split to two strategies.
April 16, 2015 11:31 a.m.
FAMOUSWATERMELON says... #18
"Pumping Kalastria Highborn"? How do you "pump" Kalastria Highborn? You can only use her ability once each time a creature dies...
April 16, 2015 6:41 p.m.
VampiricJace says... #19
FAMOUSWATERMELON: ...oh my hell. You're right. I just looked up the ruling. That kinda turns the world upside down. Thanks for pointing that out...no matter how much that really, really sucks.
Subtle_Kay says... #1
This is a really cool deck, but is Viscera Seer the best card for you? It just seems a little weak, especially if you're playing four. Maybe Gatekeeper of Malakir or Vampire Nighthawk would be better placed here, and you can play them both with Dark Ritual.
April 12, 2015 10:45 a.m.