wondering what your thoughts on Cultivator Colossus is?

Honestly not the biggest fan mainly because it is reliant on keeping lands in hand (3+ to be comparable to titan) while the rest of the deck wants to get them in play fast.

When it is winning, it is often win more in my opinion. Also, it is often one of the most sided out cards when you do play it.

It is a nice option to have sometimes, but I think overall, I prefer more options on the way to 6 mana than when I am there. If a 6 mana creature ends games more consistently than the 7 mana creature, I just don’t think the 7 mana creature does enough.

Trying out double Mirrorpool since alongside the rest of the deck, now drawing into any combo land with double amulet doesn’t matter nearly as much, and we have redundant lethal essentially, with minimal requirements, and now a guaranteed lethal line, using the “1 land required” line and looping another time for another land.

How good are the Shifting Woodlands? Couldn't find much about them in your description, delirium seems a little unreliable, I'm guessing you have them sb to bring in against matchups that can reliably remove the titans? Also interested to hear your thoughts on matchups/general position of titan in the post-MH3 meta? Why do you think it dropped off so hard, does it just lose to Nadu/Necro/Ruby? Seems like you have a lot of play vs those decks with Boseiju. Pick Your Poison also seems really strong rn, killing Nadu with no trig, killing Ruby, Necro, Murktide, and The Ring as well (though instant speed better vs necro).

Shifting woodlands is actually fairly reliable to activate against the decks we want to. The main thing is having a sorcery or instant in the grave, which both explore and rumble enable. We will easily be able to get a land in the yard, and we only need it online with a creature in the grave. The more interactive decks actively help us to enable delirium too, which are the matchups we want it for.

It is powerful to get around counterspell and sorcery speed removal, so very powerful against Jeskai. It is also a pseudo second Tolaria west, since it lets us recur a removed titan, the same way you would transmute for one.

General positioning post MH3 is that nadu stole titan’s niche, and honestly does it slightly faster. Nadu is a little more resilient, since it draws on removal, and it is a bit more difficult to interact with.

And since titan is vulnerable to the same hate, there’s not really a reason to play it in the current meta if you are just trying to win.

I expect to see the meta shift quite a bit after the next ban announcement.

The new version is better, Nadu makes the deck tick

Check out the versions on goldfish

Nadu is getting banned.

Strongly considering

-3 The One Ring

+1 Expedition Map

+1 Lumra, Bellow of the Woods

+1 Scapeshift / Vexing Bauble / ???

The One Ring just doesn't seem to be as reliable at winning as I would like it to be, and honestly a lot of decks are capable of ignoring it, or making it actively bad for us.

Idk, I feel like Roxanne isn’t the threat I need. I just want something that does more instead of the second spelunking and Roxanne.

2nd scapeshift is a thought, but then I want more amulet effects and a 2nd deeps or 3rd lotus probably.

As fun as Springheart Nantuko is, I've opted to just add a second Malevolent Rumble. There's not many spots that I want Springheart Nantuko in today's metagame unfortunately, I will leave all the lines in the deck description though.

I do really want to fit in Culling Ritual still, but other than that, fairly happy with where the deck is at now. I do need to go through and update the deck description with all the new lines and things like that since the unbanning of Green Sun's Zenith.

cool deck, I have a friend who plays titan, and he uses one Cultivator Colossus Incase the Titans get Surgical Extractioned.

cool deck, I have a friend who plays titan, and he uses one Cultivator Colossus Incase the Titans get Surgical Extractioned.

Thanks, I am not a huge fan of Cultivator Colossus mainly because it needs lands in hand to be useful (often 3+ to be comparable to Titan), and it also doesn't win the game on the spot, at a higher CMC than Primeval Titan, which often will.

If I wanted to avoid surgical more than I already do (Dryad + Analyst can already win on their own), I would probably add Scapeshift or Lumra, Bellow of the Woods back in, but I don't want to add back the second Lotus Field which enables the Scapeshift lines, and with only 1 lotus, lumra is like a colossus basically, really reliant on some outside factors to be good.

Analyst is slightly better mostly because it does its job from the grave, and can be used as ramp early then won with later. I would only run 1 of the graveyard creatures, with my minimalist package right now, and analyst just lines up better into hate and removal.