"I see that you played a second Amulet of Vigor , but that doesnt untap permanents"
It does. When a land enters tapped with two amulets on the field, both amulets trigger. You let the first trigger resolve, then tap it for the mana before the second trigger resolves. You can actually pay for Mosswort Bridge 's hideaway cost with itself like this, for example, which means it's actually possible to kill them turn 2 (if you are extremely lucky) with just a single attacking Primeval Titan and 2 Amulet of Vigor if you pump the titan to 10 with double Slayers' Stronghold on first fetch, then get Mosswort Bridge second fetch along with Kessig Wolf Run .
Then if you are lucky enough to hideaway Tooth and Nail (still need to pay to entwine, but you can use both Kessig Wolf Run untaps then get Primeval Titan for Vesuva which can just copy Kessig Wolf Run ) or Patron of the Moon (really wish this guy was green so I could find him via Summoner's Pact ) you can actually swing for lethal (provided you have a bounce land in hand and some way to produce the proper colors for Kessig Wolf Run ) since you can use Kessig Wolf Run 's first untap for Patron of the Moon 's ability, and still have it untapped for the pump. I'm usually not that ambitious, but it is technically possible.
March 18, 2014 12:44 a.m.
Ok, my bad, I wasnt aware that multiple Amulet of Vigor 's stacked with one another, and that you were able to abuse the stack like that, nice! Ive been wanting to make a deck similar to this ever since I saw the one showcased at the Pro Tour.
March 18, 2014 12:53 a.m.
One thing to mention here is how you add triggers to the stack matters. You can't pay for the Tooth and Nail entwine if the untaps are still on the stack. But if you stack them so it resolves kessig, kessig, mosswort, mosswort (so you put them on the opposite way), you can pay for either situation (float the one kessig and leave it untapped after 2nd untap).
March 18, 2014 1:05 a.m.
OMG I was reading Terastodon 's ability and saw the "for each permanent put into a graveyard this way" clause and immediately thought Leyline of the Void . Does anyone see any way to make room for a third Surgical Extraction so I can change it to Leyline of the Void to capitalize on this interaction during games involving graveyard shenanigans?
I'm thinking mainboarding Woodfall Primus is probably the best option, but I don't know what I can cut for him...
March 18, 2014 1:49 a.m.
So I'm currently pretty happy with how the deck has turned out, now I'm just looking for a suitable name...
Something involving the key cards would probably be best...
So there's basically the Karoos, Amulet of Vigor
, Summer Bloom
, and Primeval Titan
as the main stars.
Anyone have any catchy ideas!?
March 18, 2014 11:37 p.m.
For a name, you could say "As summer blooms, a vigorous titan awakes", or just "That's one Vigorous Titan", something like that
March 19, 2014 12:33 a.m.
Nicely done, I like those a lot, but unfortunately they are a little long, so far the best suggestion I've seen is, "titanic bloom."
I have a thread trying to get help here if you want more information on what I'm looking for. Sorry about not being more specific.
March 19, 2014 1:15 a.m.
Can you realy play a bounce land, untap twice and add 4 to mana pool ?that seems impossible because w/ amulet of vigor the land need to enter the battlefield ans it only enter once so you could not untap it twice ..?
March 19, 2014 5:02 p.m.
I've explained it many times before, it is a triggered effect, so you can stack them and tap in between. If you don't believe me then go here and ask a certified judge. I am quite tired of explaining as it has been explained at least 5x already.
March 19, 2014 5:25 p.m.
I put it three times in all the pertinent areas, hopefully that solves the problem lol.
March 19, 2014 7:39 p.m.
So I've decided to side out Patron of the Moon for Elderscale Wurm as an answer to some of the more aggro decks, just so I have a better win percentage to more decks. It seems like a better mainboard card anyway, as Patron of the Moon is truthfully win-more in almost every situation (I still find uses for him though, so I don't see it getting removed totally yet). Being unable to find it via Summoner's Pact is also a huge let down, and probably the main reason it doesn't function as well as I'd like it to.
March 20, 2014 6 a.m.
Submit this for TapDown Duels THIRD Duel ! Submit Here !!! Great deck!
March 25, 2014 12:57 a.m.
CurdBrosBrewingCo says... #23
This would be AMAZING to watch on the duel! This is a great deck! Mathias Hunt may have made it more recently popular; but I actually prefer this build (which was on here way before he made it popular!). If I could +2 it I would :)
March 25, 2014 1:58 a.m.
Haha yeah i've played against people with Runed Halo and Nevermore builds naming things like Hive Mind and i'm just like lol, okay then.
The major difference is my deck can function without amulet if it really has to. I've won quite a few games where I never even got to play Amulet of Vigor .
Also, since my win path is a little more concise than his, my deck is a lot more flexible when it comes to siding. He has Hive Mind in there as the basic win condition, which makes quite a few cards needed for it to be function-able. There's games where I can actually side in 10 cards, and it doesn't slow my deck down. I don't see that being possible with the Hive Mind build.
I also prefer this build to that build, simply because I find it more flexible, even though there's times where a hive mind would end a game faster than a Primeval Titan
March 25, 2014 2:08 a.m.
Here is the ruling on amulet of vigor for those who may not understand that they fire off seperately, allowing the land to tap twice.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=191577
Great deck idea, looks like a lot of fun to play, and would definitely piss some people off :D
fijord says... #1
Please explain how you T2 get to untap twice and generate 4 mana? I see that you played a second Amulet of Vigor , but that doesnt untap permanents. Am I just missing something?
March 17, 2014 11:50 p.m.