Deco_y says... #1

We'll go down in history!!

July 9, 2013 7 p.m.

sewellius says... #2

We're not yet halfway thru pack 2, so a lot can still happen.

July 9, 2013 7:08 p.m.

Mpz5 says... #3

All we need is a creature with evasion that can hold Unflinching Courage and survive with it, ideally, an Ascended Lawmage , or a few ways to do incremental damage or a 1 shot like Debt to the Deathless , and we will be okay.

July 9, 2013 7:54 p.m.

Deco_y says... #4

Anyways, Saruli Gatekeeprs is the winner.

Next pack in 5 hours 12 minutes.

July 9, 2013 9:48 p.m.

Mpz5 says... #5

pack?

July 10, 2013 3:56 a.m.

Rkynick says... #6

I probably won't be able to comment on the next pack until late unless it comes up in the next few minutes (going to be a busy day).

So, if I'm not here, my vote is for anything that contains the word "gate" in its name, IAmKingTony's reasonable criticism of our flawed strategy be damned!

July 10, 2013 5:01 a.m.

Mpz5 says... #7

Lol, noted, I'll pass that along to leaf if he doesn't remember.

July 10, 2013 5:22 a.m.

Deco_y says... #8

Yea, Debt to the Deathless . I almost feel like I should send the pick in now haha

July 10, 2013 11:56 a.m.

Deco_y says... #9

How good was this pack with Tithe Drinker in there too at 5th pick?

July 10, 2013 11:57 a.m.

Arachnarchist says... #10

+1 Boros Guildgate

Nothing good enough to pass up the gate.

July 10, 2013 12:32 p.m.

Deco_y says... #11

Debt wins games I won 3 games with it at my pre-release alone.

July 10, 2013 12:42 p.m.

sewellius says... #12

Yeah, I'm a bit torn here. I know Debt to the Deathless is a great win con. I also really like Tithe Drinker . Then we also have a gate to pick up.

I'm apt to consider Debt a bomb for us, especially since the gate is one of the less desireables for us. So, bombs before gates according to our strat, right?

+1 Debt to the Deathless .

July 10, 2013 1:12 p.m.

sewellius says... #13

Yeah Leafs_suck, either everyone ahead of us is not playing Orzhov, or this was an awesome pack to have both those cards getting passed to us.

July 10, 2013 1:15 p.m.

Mpz5 says... #14

We have to go Debt to the Deathless ... It an actual win con that works best the longer we stall out... which is what our deck does. This is the card we were looking for.

Tithe Drinker is another one that we really wanted, and Steeple Roc is a powerhouse with Unflinching Courage on it (I have done so in a draft and it's sick).

The gate is off color, and I never imagined that we would be passed a bomb so late in the pack... 5th pick? Really? If we have to 2ed and 3ed pick more gates, so be it... we have our bomb.

+1 Debt to the Deathless all day long.

Sigh... why do we get 3 good cards in this pack, and garbage in others?

July 10, 2013 2:05 p.m.

IAmKingTony says... #15

+1 Debt to the Deathless without question

July 10, 2013 2:34 p.m.

HOLY CRAP Debt to the Deathless !!!! Guise, this is the pick we have been waiting for. We MUST take it!

+1 Debt to the Deathless

July 10, 2013 3:33 p.m.

Deco_y says... #17

Pretty one sided. Debt wins.

Next pack in 8 hrs 50 mins.

Lets hope next pack is just as good.

July 10, 2013 6:10 p.m.

We are so lucky to get Debt as a 5th pick.

July 10, 2013 6:58 p.m.

Mpz5 says... #19

Extremely... I couldn't believe it. Now.... blue gates please and thank you.

July 10, 2013 8:35 p.m.

Rkynick says... #20

Just got back, very glad you guys wisely took the debt.

No one ahead of us in Orzhov? That'll probably work to our advantage in the next pack as well, no?

July 11, 2013 12:20 a.m.

Mpz5 says... #21

Next pack it will not matter... we might get some nice surprises this pack though. We can hope.

July 11, 2013 1:17 a.m.

Rkynick says... #22

Not stuff we want to see.

We can take the gate just so that we have more gates, we can take Restore the Peace and try to get more value out of our gatekeepers / kill tokens / do other tricks, we can take a cluestone...

I'm leaning towards Restore the Peace. If we can include it in our deck later (i.e. get enough blue mana fixing) it's great, otherwise there's not much else here that we'd be missing out on.

July 11, 2013 3:15 a.m.

Mpz5 says... #23

Restore the Peace could be potentially great if the stars align just right... But I think we really need to grab up the gates to be honest. As bad as that gate is for us colorwise... it will at least help us cast our blue spells, and any red bomb that we might open in the next pack.

I'll go +1 Izzet Guildgate , but it hurts... we just need the gates right now so we are not scrambling for them last pack.

July 11, 2013 4:48 a.m.

sewellius says... #24

I am really liking the potential for Restore the Peace .... but we do need to be grabbing gates.

I really don't know about the Izzet Guildgate though. I"m seeing blue as possible, but having red is only going to tempt us to spread our colors more.

I also see taking the Azorius Cluestone to help fix for our existing blue, but that fixing would likely be so we can cast things like Restore the Peace ... I'm stuck in a circle.

July 11, 2013 1:01 p.m.

Arachnarchist says... #25

+1 Maze Sentinel

Based on the last pick, I'm going to catch a lot of flak for this: I wouldn't pick Debt to the Deathless over Maze Sentinel straight up, so I'm certainly not all right with picking Debt over a partly on-color guildgate and then picking a completely off-color guildgate over the Sentinel.

I think we need to say "screw the plan" and just start picking the best card in Junk colors in each pack. Yes we have 4 gatekeepers and 3 guildgates, but that shouldn't be enough to lock us into that strategy. We can maindeck gatekeepers and if they trigger half the time that's good enough. Right now, the Maze Sentinel is bigger than everything else we have, and we need something bigger than what we have.

July 11, 2013 1:02 p.m.

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