IAmKingTony says... #3
It's not like we're not going to see another 5 Saruli Gatekeepers
June 26, 2013 3:22 p.m.
If we do, great, we grab all 5. If not... we will be kicking ourselves for not taking something soooo strong for our strat because we decided to pick up another card we could see 5 of later as well.
We might see the gatekeeper again, but consider when we need to be picking up gates. It will need to be soon. If we do not start taking them, other people will move into the gate strat pretty quickly. If we pick up the gatekeepers and the gates early this pack, we will set up an amazing pack 2 for ourselves.
June 26, 2013 3:32 p.m.
7 life in a slow format to help us build up is great, especially with that fat ass. with FAR / AWAY we need all the bounce targets we can get for it. Gaining 14 life would be pretty sweet, not gonna lie. If we're going Gatekeeper strat, which it seems like we're doing, we need to take Gatekeepers.
Also Tony, don't link the card names. I'll have to delete your comment.
June 26, 2013 3:35 p.m.
Thing is: if we clog the field with big bodies, and are constantly gaining that much life, what are they going to do about it? All we will need is some extort guys, or an evasive dude with a decent attack, or an X bomb like debt to the deathless, and we can sit there and relax why they get frustrated and run out of steam. We are going for the late game with grindy matches. Think mid to late game.
June 26, 2013 3:46 p.m.
IAmKingTony says... #7
We're going to run mono 4-drops?
And no, we won't see another 5 Woodlot Crawlers because it's an uncommon where Gatekeeper is a common.
June 26, 2013 3:47 p.m.
You can get away with pretty much mono 4 drops, you will take some early, but once you get rolling, you will quickly stabilize.
I was referring to fumes as the we will see 5 of them comment.
Honestly, the only other card I would personally consider a decent pick in comparison is the crawler. It does give situational evasion and protection... and it is a 2 drop and uncommon, but I just look at our plan, look at the two choices, and ask myself if the 7 life swing and big body isn't way more relevant against more decks than what the crawler offers us.
You can expect to see more of them, but sometimes variation is a harsh mistress. I'd rather have the stabilizing element for sure, than gamble that it will be there later. I also worry about sending the wrong signal to our left. We don't want them to think gates are open for them. I'm focusing also on making sure that our second pack solidifies our strategy and sending them arguably the best gatekeeper out there will go a long way in giving them a signal that we do not want them to have.
June 26, 2013 4:02 p.m.
Okay, I'm gonna instigate Caley's version of voting.
Everyone, when you make your vote, somewhere in the comment I'd need +1 /card name
+1 Saruli Gate Keepers
June 26, 2013 4:18 p.m.
+1 saruli gate keepers
I have to agree about the 7 life swing. it'll make a big difference, and seeing as we're planning on running the gate build, i think this is a good card to snatch up.
June 26, 2013 4:30 p.m.
Arachnarchist says... #12
+1 FATAL FUMES
SARULI GATEKEEPERS is good in DGM-GTC-RTR because the 7 life helps to stabilize against fast decks while also providing a decent sized body. It's much less relevant in a slow format like this.
The problem with WOODLOT CRAWLER is it's just a 2/1 unblockable at best. Nothing in Dragon's Maze can pump it permanently. UNFLINCHING COURAGE, FLESH / BLOOD, GIVE / TAKE, and THRASHING MOSSDOG can't help it because of the protection.
June 26, 2013 5:06 p.m.
DeathByDragons says... #13
My vote goes to Saruli. This is just going to be an extremely slow format and gaining 7 and getting a 2/4 for 4 mana is just gonna be awesome.
+1 Saruli Gatekeepers
June 26, 2013 5:29 p.m.
A agree about the woodlot. It's small evasion and some protection, but really... nothing can make it bigger. I'd rather see the torturer in our deck then it since it's 2 damage, and information at instant speed while it's a blocker until it's effect is used.
The slow format is why the 7 life gain will be big IMO. If they do drop a few 2 and 3 drops before we hit 4 lands, it will bring our life back up. If they get some form of damage through, the 7 life buffer will help us bide our time until we find an answer. I wouldn't mind fumes either, but I think we will see more, and I feel that taking it over the massive life gain would be a mistake.
June 26, 2013 6:09 p.m.
I hate to skip the woodlot crawler, but I'm definitely okay with adding green and going for gatekeepers.
+1 Saruli Gatekeepers
June 26, 2013 6:41 p.m.
Alright, I'll count Tony's vote as Woodlot Crawler.
Sauli Gatekeepers wins! Next pack in 3 hours 20 mins
June 26, 2013 11:37 p.m.
Alright everyone, it's 20 after midnight and I work early tomorrow haha. I will be posting the pack when I wake up in the morning. Should still give us more than enough time to debate and select.
See ya in a few hrs.
June 27, 2013 3:21 a.m.
DeathByDragons says... #22
Oh, darn. Was hoping it would get listed tonight.
Mpz5 says... #1
,now we are getting passed the second best (Saruli).* lol
Actually, I'd argue that this is the best one because of the huge life swing. We just need some bomb if we can manage to pick up another few of these and we will be gold. Hopefully we will hit debt or something of that nature. A huge evasion creature would get the job done as well.
June 26, 2013 2:58 p.m.