I remember there was an effect like Relentless Assualt on an enchantment, it cost 3RR to activate. If you can get Sword of Feast and Famine those two cards can create infinite combat steps.

Aggravated Assault thanks! already put it in

Spellskite will stop targeted removal.

hi essiga9 thanks!

im putting it in!

i still need to take out 7 cards... suggestions?

I don't like Steam Augury for the simple fact that it gives your opponents too much choice in the matter. I'd like it more if you got to choose which pile you kept, but as it stands, I wouldn't run the Augury.

Hi canterlotguardian

Done 6 more to go!

What about adding in Sword of War and Peace . Edh players normally have large hand sizes. I would take out invoke the firemind. But it is a good card.

hi Hernandez1993 you are right about the hand size, but i that the Sword of War and Peace lacks a little punch! i mean dont get me wrong protection from red and white is great as it makes the creature very hard to removei will put it in my maybeboard but it would be competing against Argentum Armor and Batterskull i think i already have the better swords in there, also for Invoke the Firemind i like having the choice between drawing or burning, since i am not playing lots of creatures i have mana open to do that....

thanks for the advice! dont forget to +1 :D

Hellkite Charger and Bear Umbra for redundancy. With bear umbra you do not have to connect with your opponents face.

Crap had a brainfart. Your not running green. Forget Bear Umbra

I don't think the Kor Outfitter is worth running. It's an ok one time effect, but it's not repeatable and not worth a card in my opinion.

For Sunforger , what spells would you cast with it? I count 7, most of them being counterspells or removal. I would try to keep track of how often you actually use it's unattach ability and evaluate whether or not it's worth running (I think the answer should be no if you don't end up using the unattach ability much). I would also think about cutting the ones that give shroud and looking for more hexproof ones, as they prevent further armoring up.

I like all the swords in here, with blue/green being the worst, but still very playable. I would also think about Nim Deathmantle .

@ Replayced i forgot about Hellkite Charger , there is also Fury of the Horde but they seem overly expensive..... in terms of the umbra, the only card with that effect would be Sword of Feast and Famine , nothing else in the colours i am playing

@smash10101 i agree with you for Kor Outfitter , for Sunforger i am able to cheaply pay for counterspells and tutor up spot removal, and i can also play Master Warcraft which is awesome!i think i had Nim Deathmantle in before, but it seems slow and expensive, i was thinking maybe Batterskull or Argentum Armor what are your thoughts on those?also what about Brass Squire ? this one is repeatable, but i have no experience with him... i was thinking i can also include Blind Obedience to make sure they can't block with new creatures.....

thoughts?

In that case keep it. I was only wondering if you actually used it a lot. Brass Squire could work here. I would maybe try it and see how often you need to use it (if you do add Argentum Armor it'll save you 6 mana). Argentum Armor could work, depending on how often you can afford the mana to cast it/equip it. I would think about throwing in Sword of Feast and Famine , Sword of Body and Mind , Sword of Vengeance , and/or Umezawa's Jitte . Swords are good.

I don't think Blind Obedience is right for this deck, but I could be wrong.

Breath of Fury ?

@CW really? How so?

I think that there is a potential of not getting that extra phase rather than just attaching with ruhan... And obviously I don't want to sac him.... Usually the other creatures serve as support for ruhan...

Any more suggestions? In trying to incorporate some of my maybeboard but I'm not sure what to take out....

Remember to +1 please

Thanks

Phyrexian Metamorph ?

Aside from cloning someone else's good stuff, you can also clone your own equips for redundancy.

@ shadowmoses514 i think it is a cool idea, a bit expensive for cmc though.... i will consider it

thanks

a second Sunforger or Sword of Feast and Famine could be pretty bonkers, I like the Phyrexian Metamorph idea

@ smash10101 and shadowmoses514

you guys convinced me

now please help me slim down the deck back to 100 cards :P i moved some of the cards from my maybeboard into my main deck and left out cards that i thought might not work too well

thoughts?

thanks!!!

possible cuts: Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs , Molten Primordial , Phantasmal Image , Invoke the Firemind

depending on your meta, other things could be considered. Do you see lots of token decks? If not, consider cutting Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite . Also, do you need both Brass Squire and Auriok Windwalker ?

Also, you may have enough unblockable effects that you could cut Prowler's Helm .

Finally, does your meta have nonbasic land destruction? I noticed that you aren't running any basics. From the Ashes would be lethal.

oops, I guess you do have 3 basics, still not many though.

@ smash10101 thanks for the suggestions, i had Molten Primordial in mind so thats good, i agree with Prowler's Helm too, even though having him unblockable is great, for Brass Squire and Auriok Windwalker since i am running equipment heavy, does it make sense to keep both? i have not play tested with them in, so i figured it would be a good idea even if i end up having both on the field.

usually for my meta, we dont like running land destruction....

Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite i have found out that even if i am not playing against token deck, every time it hits the board people struggle, so i think i am keeping it, i was thinking of cutting Phantasmal Image too even though it has saved me a couple of times before in other decks....

for Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs the reason to include him was to create tokens and keep my defenses up while i am constantly attacking, also i am creature light in here... i was thinking of cutting Sword of Light and Shadow since the effect is not great, but i really like the protection against both colours... ugh!! lol i will give this more thought tonight :)

thanks

light and shadow is good mostly because most spot removal is in black or white. The gain 3 life does almost nothing and the return a creature is pretty decent in this deck. If you really want to cut a sword, I'd say Sword of Fire and Ice is the worst in here.

Phyrexian Metamorph can replace Phantasmal Image , so I think you'll be ok there.

I would keep both the squire and windwalker pending playtesting if you don't know yet. The ability to instant speed equip is really good, especially with Sunforger and pricy equip costs.

If Norn is good in your meta, keep her. I was only thinking that she's not very good against certain decks (read: most of mine), but, again, if she works in your meta she works in your meta.

We made 3 cuts, so that's progress.

@ smash10101 progress has been made!!

i removed the Molten Primordial and Final Judgement since i already have spot removal (3) and also the disk and o stone

still need to trim out 3 more cards.... almost there!

Since you're only playing 3 basics, Wayfarer's Bauble seems like an unneeded card. Also, since you have Aggravated Assault , Relentless Assault is nice for redundancy, but doesn't do anything aggravated doesn't already cover. Lastly, since you only play 3 counterspells, how often are you seeing them? How often are they relevant? I feel like 3 is too little to make that much of an impact in the course of your game, but if they've worked well for you then keep 'em in.

I suggested 5 cards that could be cut, but you could pick-and-choose as you wish from my suggestions.