I obviously didn't upvote. Well, I do have a suggestion: Mystic Confluence might be pretty cool here, no matter if cast from hand or off of yennett

seshiro_of_the_orochi Thanks for your suggestion.

Mystic Confluence was in the earlier version of this deck as it's a good and versatile card.

After play testing, here're some of my thoughts on the card:

As a Counterspell - is expensive for a counterspell.

As a Removal - With Flying and Menance on Yennett, I don't often see the need to remove potential blockers. Devastation Tide and Tragic Arrogance are better at dealing with threats.

As a Card Draw - This deck values Tutors and Top of Library Manipulation over card draw.

In view of the above, I ended up taking the card out.

Sounds like a well reasoned decision. On the other hand, a counter or bounce that draws two cards at instant speed is fine.

Draw two as an instant is Hieroglyphic Illumination . The counter is Mana Leak , the bounce is Unsummon . So the counter is above curve, the bounce on curve. Still, I understand your reasoning.

seshiro_of_the_orochi I enjoy discussions like this as it forces me to think long and hard on my card choices.

Keep the ideas flowing!

Cloudius

Great deck list, super similar to my Intet deck as well! So +1 for that! Aside from that the only thing I can possibly think of is just Silence so your turn you go off is interrupted or that you can stop a person's turn when they attempt to go off. All my other cards you can consider is already in our maybeboard.

Definitely a great list, keep up the good work!

hkhssweiss am replying you as well so the discussion can be read by others interested in this deck.

My Yennett deck has similar stats. I've managed to go off on Turn 1 only once, with a God draw. Turn 2s are possible too but Turns 3-5 are more common. I've a section in my Primer that covers what kind of draws would facilitate comboing off early ("As Easy as ABC").

The 1st spell I'd tutor for, is Expropriate too. By now, players are wise not to grant us more extra turns but ramping us by 3 extra lands is almost lethal too and many scoop if this is casted on Turns 2-3.

Given that I don't have access to green ramps, I rely heavily on artifacts, so I run all Signets, Talismans and Grim Monolith .

Cloudius

I got the "God" hand quite a few times in my several iterations of Intet, but they aren't ever T1 wins, they are T1 Intet into T2 wins. 6 CMC is quite hard, but any day I get T3 Intet it gets really hard to stop her. Haha I would love to duke out the decks between us two, it would seem really fun since we run time walk tribal decks! ^^

hkhssweiss I can imagine each game would end very fast since either one of us would combo off quickly. Unless the other draws some ready answers.

Yes we both have the same issue of having high cost commanders and they're the most vulnerable during the turn we summoned them. I run Force of Will , Pact of Negation and Misdirection as means to protect Yennett even when I'm all tapped out. I've considered Hall of the Bandit Lord but it is in my Maybeboard cause I don't like lands that come into play tapped.

Cloudius Same here I run that package, with the exception of Misdirection , as well as Boseiju, Who Shelters All , Vexing Shusher , and most cheap efficient counters.

I'm curious, is there a reason why you don't run Cavern of Souls or is control not really an issue in your meta?

hkhssweiss Vexing Shusher is a good card and a hidden gem, good call.

I don't run Boseiju, Who Shelters All cause I'm going to cast the spells without paying the mana cost anyway. It coming into play tapped actually makes me lose tempo.

As for Cavern of Souls , it is a tough call to exclude it. I do have a few friends playing counterspells but it ain't a big thing here in my meta.

Also, I value lands that produce colored mana over those that produce only colorless (I consider Cavern as producing colorless), especially since some of my spells have , or in their casting cost.

Is this deck already in the feature queue?

Daarkest The last time this deck was featured was back in Jan 2019.

Cloudius, i'm looking to get into EDH and I saw this deck. I was immediately drawn in because of the card I play in Legacy and one of my favorite cards . But, many of the pieces I don't have are the expensive ones. Do you think you could make an alternate decklist, but a budget version of this deck? I would be very appreciative.

Daarkest This deck is fun to pilot and is one of my favourite decks.

Sure I can try to recommend some budget alternatives if you can let me have the list of cards that're out of your budget.

That said, this is a combo deck and is tuned to combo off consistently around turns 5-6 most of the time. So going budget will affect the speed and performance of the deck. Nonetheless, it should still be an extremely fun deck to pilot. Cheers!

Vampiric Tutor , Expropriate , Grim Monolith , Mana Crypt , Mana Drain , and Scroll Rack are the main ones that are out of budget. The other extra turn spells are pretty expensive in addition to the shock lands (I already have most of those anyway.)

Daarkest Here're some of my recommendations:

Vampiric Tutor - Replace with Insidious Dreams . Cost more to cast but still lines up the top of your library at Instant speed.

Expropriate - You can consider Savor the Moment . Skipping the untap step doesn't hurt Yennett, Cryptic Sovereign as she has Vigilance but it'll affect your lands and mana rocks.

Grim Monolith / Mana Crypt - Leaving these out will hurt the tempo a little as they're key pieces for me to power out Yennett very early (Turns 1 - 3). Feel free to throw in any mana rocks in their place. Dark Ritual does provide the 1 time mana boost as well.

Mana Drain - Feel free to replace with any other counterspell of your choice. I'd still try to keep the CMC to 2 or less so we can imprint it on Isochron Scepter when needed.

Scroll Rack - Scroll Rack has 2 functions in this deck.

A) Puts "Bombs" I drawn back on top of the library - Agonizing Memories or Hidden Retreat are possible replacements for this effect.

B) Help filter and rearrange the top of my library - Any cards with Scry effect would work here, e.g. Seer's Lantern .

Which card you select as replacement is up to you and your preferred play style.

Hope this helps. Cheers!

Normally, I am not a fan of combo decks, but the wincons you described in your beautifully formatted description are awesome! I didn't even know about the Proteus Staff combo till now, and that is hilarious

Command Beacon seems like a must here, for a deck that relies on its commander!

I know you have Transmute Artifact marked as "too expensive", but you can pick one up for $120 or so online, so it's less expensive than a lot of other cards here, and it's strictly better than Reshape . I put it in my The Locust God list, and it immediately kicked the deck up a turn faster - can't recommend it highly enough.

Have you considered Spellseeker ? Can grab Reshape , Cyclonic Rift , Mystical Tutor , etc.

EDIT: Just realized that Spellseeker messes with Proteus Staff combo - ignore me XD

Daedalus19876 Thanks for your suggestions.

Command Beacon is certainly useful in most EDH decks, I just don't have sufficient copies to go around.

I recall Transmute Artifact cost more than $120 (I assume we're talking about USD here). Do share the website where you saw it going for $120, please.

And yup, your Locust God deck is awesome. Can tell you spent considerable effort refining it, like what I'm doing to this deck now. Keep up the good work!

KeelHaul10 Thank you for your kind words. It means a lot to me when the deck I brewed and the descriptions I designed are appreciated.

If you're going to build the deck, let me know how it fare for you in your meta. Cheers!

Cloudius: Facebook Sick Deals page has them pretty cheap :) it's where I got mine!

Daedalus19876 Thanks to your recommendations above, a copy of Transmute Artifact will be joining my arsenal of tutors soon! Looking forward to it.

I'm looking into purchasing the deck, but my issue is it seems really slow and commander only dependant which can gather hate, do you prefer non-creature less for a casual group style or should i go some creatures route?

Geridious Thanks for considering this deck!

You're right about it being commander dependent. Yennett, Cryptic Sovereign is a "build-around-me" type commander and her name precedes her, so she'll definitely draw hate. Then again, such is the case for other decks that are more reliant on their commanders (e.g. Animar, Soul of Elements , perhaps Zur the Enchanter , etc).

My meta is a casual one. That said, there're sufficient creature removals, board wipes and counter spells running around so she's very susceptible to removals. This is the reason I run a small protection package in the deck. While insufficient, they still offer some form of protection when the need arises.

As for it being slow, it may be because you're not familiar with the lines to victory (e.g. what to tutor for, how to line up the top of your library, etc). If you do eventually decide to purchase this deck, I'd be happy to guide you through, like how I did for the few folks before you.

As for the decision to go creatureless, I like to take the path less traveled. Also, I'm a Spellslinger at heart, so this resonates better with me.

Ultimately, the decision, to follow my deck list or go the creature route, is yours to make. It hinges a lot on your preferred play style and the meta you're in.

Hope this helps.

thanks so much for the reply i appreciate it, yeah i'm definitely a creature type of guy for decks, not a fan of blue too much haha thanks for laying the foundation out, definitley see which route to take creature wise.