BlinkTwice says... #2
@sylvannos Could you please point out where I told him to throw his deck away at? I must have missed typing that somewhere because I don't remember saying it. All i said was that taking a Modern deck that is on a small budget to a tounrnament isn't going to fair that well compared to Modern legal decks that have no budget limits. I was suggesting moving to a format that has a larger card pool and more easily abused mechanics, all while still being cost effective, so he'd have a better chance OR removing his budget limits and staying in Modern because if he can afford having two Kozilek, Butcher of Truth, then he can afford a Karn Liberated and some Vesuvas. I'm well aware of Modern Tron as being a popular meta. I'm also aware that there are not many Modern tron decks that use the big 3 Eldrazi, but refuse to invest into other cards of equal cash value, like Karn Liberated, whom I suggested in my original comment. I simply presented him options; Stay in Modern and go all out on your deck. Or break out of Modern and get some cheese for a low cost.
So please, make sure you review everything I've said before putting words in my mouth. I never told him to scrap this deck.
March 28, 2015 7:08 p.m.
exalted_k1d says... #3
-2 It That Betrays and -1-2 Spawnsire of Ulamog for 3-4 Artisan of Kozilek because with Artisan of Kozilek you can get any of the creatures that have been destroyed by your opponent or you have disgarded because of have to many cards in hand back onto the battlefield for no cost
March 28, 2015 7:10 p.m.
@Anji3739: You missed the point. You're telling him he shouldn't play this in Modern and turn it into a Vintage deck, which is a completely different format and far more expensive. There's only Oath of Druids for cheating out Eldrazi, and even then you're better off using Griselbrand or Rune-Scarred Demon. He'd have to take out everything in his deck. In other words, he'd have to completely scrap everything in this deck.
For casual, it really doesn't matter what you play as long as you're having fun with your friends. Switching the deck from Modern to a more casual one with Sol Ring is kind of a moot point.
Just because he has a lot of expensive cards already in the deck doesn't mean there's a large budget. Really, this deck needs some cheaper cards like Ancient Stirrings, Sylvan Scrying, Chromatic Star, and Chromatic Sphere to get by...not another $200 on Grove of the Burnwillows, Karn Liberated, and Oblivion Stones.
March 28, 2015 8:28 p.m.
trollslayer says... #5
Sorry Anji3739 I have to agree with sylvanos here. It feels like your telling me to do vintage or casual or not at all. I currently don't have all the cards so i don't have all the cards. I am switching the cards a lot and I will get them slowly. I don't want to spend more then I have and this will mainly only go to fnm not say ptqs. My meta is very diverse and there are lots of ways to go about this deck. I want it to be faster and I don't think spending 30-40 bucks on a single 11 drop will do that. Thank you for your input anyways.
March 28, 2015 9:49 p.m.
trollslayer says... #6
Sorry it's a 7 drop but adding those won't make it faster
March 28, 2015 10:51 p.m.
trollslayer says... #7
Ok then I shall be adding cards and I will do major editing to make it quicker now.
March 29, 2015 1:10 a.m.
SefTheReject says... #9
I was wrong, the wording says cast so you would get the bonus for casting
March 29, 2015 7:21 p.m.
I agree with an above mentioned Explore. I think it would benefit you more than the eggs. Also, he's in standard, so there's a chance you open him in packs, but Ugin, the Spirit Dragon is amazing minus his price tag.
April 3, 2015 8:47 a.m.
ducttapedeckbox says... #11
You probably don't need four - if any Quicksilver Amulets. If you want to become more competitive, GR Tron is more consistent as it has access to Pyroclasm. This will definitely add to your budget though. Tron: Legacy... just kidding, Modern is a good example of a consistent and competitive deck, even though it's not exactly budget.
April 10, 2015 10:33 p.m.
trollslayer says... #12
Hi, I don't want to splash red for various reasons. Apparently my meta isn't as agro as I thought. Also mono g tron appeals to me and seems more original then rg tron. As for the quicksilver amulets they are what allows me to play emrakul turn 4. Thanks anyways.
April 10, 2015 10:38 p.m.
trollslayer says... #14
It does the exact same thing that quicksilver amulet does for cheaper. I can use a turn to put a monster onto the battlefield instead of paying.... Let's just say more then quicksilver amulet money wise.
April 11, 2015 8:51 a.m.
I actually don't think Elvish Piper is worth playing. Say you have tron up, and a green mana, which you would need to pop out Elvish Piper. That means you have eight mana, you can drop amulet, and drop in a creature at your own convenience. Elvish Piper would have summoning sickness, and would likely die before you untap with it. If you untap with it though, the mana cost should not be much of a problem.
April 11, 2015 8:53 a.m.
trollslayer says... #16
Yea. Baisicly what I meant. It also costs more money wise
April 11, 2015 8:55 a.m.
trollslayer says... #18
InDirectX I am trying to make this on the cheap side. Sorry if it dosnt feel like budget but it is. That's why im not dropping so and so amount on elvish piper.
April 11, 2015 9:42 a.m.
Right off the bat I would suggest Utopia Sprawl as it is turn 1 solid mana ramp and a color if necessary. or since you are tron, Gilded Lotus is definitely viable I think. Darksteel Ingot maybe not so much, but it is a thought to me cause its indestructible and makes any color.
April 11, 2015 10:10 a.m.
Would suggest Thran Dynamo over Gilded Lotus since most of this deck isn't actually green and the Dynamo happens a turn faster; up to you however.
April 11, 2015 10:13 a.m.
Hey, yup: i agree. Didn't know about that card..... cool gonna have to use dat one myself :D
April 11, 2015 10:14 a.m.
Thran Dynamo isn't modern legal: I was wondering why I didn't recognize it: i have done EXTENSIVE searches for all mana ramp in modern.
soo..... Gilded Lotus? :D
April 11, 2015 12:28 p.m.
trollslayer says... #23
Gilded Lotus makes scence then because I generally just need say a few more mana to cast an Eldrazi. Thanks for the suggestions!:)
April 11, 2015 12:38 p.m.
Yah that lotus is nice bulk mana ramp and colors too: I tried a deck like this and likewise I always found myself a pinch below what I need for casting eldrazi 'till I tried out Gilded Lotus. that gave my deck the eco boom to hard cast eldrazi, also teh colors are nice for multicolored spells: If you do retrofit lotus in there, you could consider Fiery Justice? I found this card to be a bit over powered against aggro decks which your deck will naturally struggle a bit towards I think.
maybe just for sideboard:
also For sideboard: I STRONGLY recommend: I can give a compelling argument (hopefully) that Sun Droplet would aid you against red burn decks and artifact affinity: those aggro decks that try to dish out lot of damage and burn out their hand fast.
Read it carefully cause 99% people I use droplet against over look the "each" upkeep part. this means you gain 2 life by your next turn. If a red deck Lightning Bolts! you by your next turn you gained 2 of it back and their next they wastes the burn. Its pure card advantage against red decks. It also cancels out most of the small critters those aggros throw at you turn 1 or 2. Plus: this is all for 2 colorless mana artifact so turn 2 you can spit it out there and from experience I tell you it absolutly wrecks burn decks: not so much affinity but it still helps a lot in prolonging you life a couple turns: against red decks it alone could make you live for ever cause red decks are worthless on the draw when their hand burns up. just a thought
April 11, 2015 12:44 p.m.
Sorry, I thought I had seen a Thran Dynamo in a Modern deck. Must have been EDH.
sylvannos says... #1
@Anji3739: Uhhh....he'd spend more switching this to Vintage (a $10,000 format), on top of not having anyone to play with. He probably intends to take this to Modern tournaments. Mono-Green Tron is definitely a thing and certainly a viable deck (I know because I've done it). The main card he's missing is Karn Liberated, which is being reprinted in Modern Masters 2.
There's some really simple, budget changes he can make to the deck to help it deal with the faster decks in Modern. Namely, the inclusion of cards like Sundering Titan or playing Karplusan Forest instead of Grove of the Burnwillows to splash red for Pyroclasm.
Telling him to scrap a deck based on your knowledge of a format you don't play in counterproductive.
March 28, 2015 6:26 p.m.