Hi there JexInfinite! Nice to hear from you.
I took out one Remand, but I am not sure if it's the right card to cut for 1x Abrupt Decay.
What do you think about that?
May 21, 2015 8:47 a.m.
JexInfinite says... #4
I think that's correct. Remand isn't amazing, because unlike Twin, you don't have an instant win.
Tata You generally never see more than 1 filter per list. It doesn't seem necessary here; the mana costs are pretty tame.
For the sideboard, Fulminator Mage seems better than Rain of Tears. Getting a 2/2 body is pretty sweet, and you can time you land destruction far better.
May 21, 2015 8:52 a.m. Edited.
Hi Tata, thanks for checking out my deck!
I agree with you, though JexInfinite is not wrong about the filter lands...
I will probably put in 1x Sunken Ruins for Dismember, Vendilion Clique and so on.
@JexInfinite: The thought behind Rain of Tears was, that I could use Snapcaster Mage to hit it again. However, I guess you are right about it anyways.
May 21, 2015 9:04 a.m.
JexInfinite says... #6
Telerik You don't want to flashback a Rain of Tears over anything else. Re-casting Abrupt Decay is usually just better.
May 22, 2015 8:11 a.m.
I noticed you're running 24 lands but you have an average cmc of around 2, Why is that?
May 22, 2015 11:07 p.m.
Hi jmanwdogg, thank you for pointing that out, I wasn't aware of it.
I adjusted it by putting in 1x Darkblast.
May 23, 2015 4:44 a.m.
firerunner36 says... #9
I do think your a bit high on land count for being a 2 cmc deck, why not replace a few with Echoing Truth to help shut down splinter twin decks.
May 23, 2015 5:01 a.m.
If any bounce spell I would run Vapor Snag, but I already have some removal for Splinter Twin decks: Dismember, Abrupt Decay and Darkblast (when enchanted on Pestermite) all can kill the creature in response to the Splinter Twin. Otherwise I still have some decent amount of counter spells like Remand and Mana Leak.
About the lands... After all this is a control deck. I play man lands (enters the battlefield tapped) and a lot of shock lands (sometimes tapped as well), so I am really not playing tempo or aggro here. That is why I want to get to my lands when I need them and having a good amount of cantrips (Serum Visions, Remand) allows me to control the amount of nonland cards in my hand. 23 is just right, I will probably never have too few, but too much doesn't hurt because I have man lands, in which I can spend the mana.
May 23, 2015 5:33 a.m. Edited.
pumpkinwavy says... #11
This seems like the perfect home for Dark Confidant... Just because no one plays it anymore doesn't mean it's bad. Usually Tasigur, the Golden Fang is better but in this deck I don't think so.
May 25, 2015 5:49 p.m.
ModernCentralPublic says... #12
Dark confidant definitely has a place in the sideboard if it helps in specific matchups that you have trouble, but other than that it is pretty much worse than tasigur over. The only real advantage is being able to run 4(since you don't want to be getting multiples of tasigur).
May 25, 2015 6:25 p.m.
Thanks shadow63 for commenting.
Hm, the main thing here is that it can kill fetch lands.
In my opinion, Shadow of Doubt is an underrated card in modern and should be in more control decks than it is now.
Despite this deck looks more like a midrange deck, I personally think Shadow of Doubt is (also because there are now more fetch lands available for modern after KTK) a good choice.
May 28, 2015 2:50 a.m.
youve convinced me and id call it tempo not midrange but thats kinda like splitting hairs
May 28, 2015 3:27 a.m.
I don't think 4 Clique total is needed. I'd cut one from the side for either a Thragtusk or a Feed the Clan.
May 31, 2015 5:08 a.m.
Hi SSJRanulf.
Feed the Clan seems a good choice, especially with so many burn decks around. Thanks!
May 31, 2015 5:55 a.m.
redafroninja says... #18
Why no Cryptic Command? Seems way too powerful not to have in a BUG Control Shell
May 31, 2015 7:27 p.m.
demonicgrizzly says... #19
AI played against a very similar deck at my local game store last week. it was less control oriented though. This seems. A lot tougher to deal with.
I could suggest you run a few Putrefy in the sideboard. Great removal for not much mana. You might not need it though. I like it so much I main 4 copies in pretty much every deck I have that runs black and green.
June 1, 2015 7:18 a.m.
kansir_the_mighty says... #20
So if you are playing a control (slower) deck why are you using fast duals like Darkslick Shores and not Drowned Catacomb instead?
June 1, 2015 2:45 p.m.
Liliana of the Veil really isn't the style of card that you want to be playing in a control deck. Jund and abzan decks use her well because there top decks are very powerful, much more powerful than a bug decks. I would suggest cutting her and maybe take the above suggestion, I know you haven't gotten time to respond to them yet, of adding Cryptic Command. No more than two is what I suggest. With the extra slot from cutting the lillys I would maybe add a draw spell like Compulsive Research, but there are other options for that slot.
Also I do advice to those who are playing Tarmogoyf in a bug shell to be weary of your mana. Often times players will tap out for there creatures and think that it is the right play when they should be holding, or at least bluffing, their Remand.
As always I do hope that this advice helped and happy brewing!
June 2, 2015 1:07 a.m.
ModernCentralPublic says... #22
Golgari Charm is awesome sideboard stuff.
Also, run Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver instead of liliana, liliana is not the card you want to be running in a control deck, and ashiok is awesome.
June 2, 2015 1:38 a.m.
Hi sirbar, thanks for taking the time and commenting on my deck!
I understand your thoughts about Liliana of the Veil. as ModernCentralPublic suggested, maybe Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver is a better choice here.
Do you think Compulsive Research is a good choice for modern?
The thing with Cryptic Command is, that I might not always have three blue mana ready. The command is really color-heavy.
Also, thanks for the tip with Tarmogoyf, I have actually learned this some time ago, the hard way :-).
June 2, 2015 4:23 a.m.
@kansir_the_mighty: I still have a lot of low-drops (one-, two-, three-drops), so I think the fast land is still better than the check land.
June 2, 2015 4:24 a.m.
Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver is not really a maindeckable card, especially as a three of. It is very good as a sideboard card vs. midrange decks like jund and abzan if you would like to consider it there.
Compulsive Research is good as a one of in modern, no more though. It's really just a late game card to help you dig for that Abrupt Decay when you have a hand full of extra lands.
As for your mana base, you should be able to cast Cryptic Command on turn 4 all the time as it is. The only difference that you will need to do is keep cc in mind while you play to make sure that you are getting those blue duals as often as possible.
My last suggestion is maybe a Golgari Charm in the main as a one-of. I love this card here. It whips boards full of tokens, 2/1's and kills enchantments main deck, which comes up more often than you would think. I have never found this to be a dead card in my hand, please try it out.
JexInfinite says... #1
Up the Abrupt Decay count to 3. Too powerful of an effect to not play 3.
May 21, 2015 6:42 a.m.