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Modern* PrimitiveGuy

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Jordan0601 says... #1

I would drop ajani for Archangel of Thune . It can pump you weenies and you curve can handle it. Especially with nykthos.

April 8, 2014 6:51 p.m.

PrimitiveGuy says... #2

I put Ajani in because his second ability to give flying and double strike can be a great suprise. Especially on turn three with a Hopeful Eidolon that has two Ethereal Armor on it. However I will do some play testing with Thune and see how it runs. Thanks!

April 9, 2014 1:03 a.m.

Jordan0601 says... #3

I just don't like glass cannon's (even though I have made that style of deck before) If you are trying to pull off the Hopeful Eidolon combo, consider Nyxborn Shieldmate . Same mana cost and is also an enchantment creature.Don't know what to take out maybe two Fabled Hero but then again those do come in handy late game.

April 9, 2014 8:46 a.m.

Please don't EVER take out Fabled Hero for Nyxborn Shieldmate , that would be ridiculous. Plus Hopeful Eidolon is worlds better than the Shieldmate. If you were to take something out for Archangel, move Holy Mantle to the sideboard. It can be a dead draw in some match ups. Also, I would only run Nykthos if you're also running Heliod, God of the Sun . Right now, you have no outlet for all that mana. Other than that, the deck looks great. Check mine out for some more ideas: Weenie Slap (1st @ FNM)

April 15, 2014 11:45 a.m.

PrimitiveGuy says... #5

I agree about Fabled Hero . I love that guy way to much to ever take it out. I like what you said about Heliod as a place to dump my mana. What do you think about putting in Blessing ?

April 15, 2014 4:13 p.m.

Blessing could be decent, but you already run 11 non-creature enchantments. Heliod provides another big body and I personally would prefer a bunch of 2/1 tokens over +1/+1 buffs (don't forget Vigilance too!). With all those tokens, Eidolon of Countless Battles becomes more insane than he normally is. The reason I don't like to run the non-creature enchantments is because they fall off when either your creature dies, or when you give the enchanted creature protection from black or white. So when facing a black or white deck, you would have to side out either the Auras or the Protection instants if you don't want them to backfire. That's just my opinion on the matter, which is why I go 100% Bestow. Sure the Bestowed Aura will fall off with pro-white too, but then it just becomes a creature which is not necessarily a bad thing. But like I said, that's just my opinion and my play style. You and everyone else are entitled to theirs as well. Anyway, I hope this was helpful for you. :)

April 15, 2014 5:31 p.m.

PrimitiveGuy says... #7

What would you suggest I take out to add in Heliod? You make a great point about Blessing and I agree to keeping it out.

April 15, 2014 8:13 p.m.

Hmm... I would try -1 Gift of Orzhova , -1 Ethereal Armor and move in 2x Heliod. See if you like him in your build, I know I do. The Vigilance itself is nice, but he's nearly always Devoted and in creature form with all the WW on your permanents. Also I would even try dropping Nykthos down to 1 for another Plains. Nykthos seems like it is the WORST card to have 2-of in hand compared to any other. If it's 2 Legendary creatures, say Heliod, it's fine because the first will probably get killed at some point. But the Nykthos, there's nothing worse than drawing two. Food for thought. But i would for sure try the -2 Auras +2 Heliod.

April 15, 2014 8:31 p.m.

Nah man make it all weenee

April 16, 2014 9:13 p.m.

Dalektable says... #10

Yep, this build is pretty solid. I've been running a similar deck since theros was released, it's A Good Man Goes To War . +1, interesting to see Holy Mantle I love that card but it's a bit too highly costed for my taste.

April 16, 2014 9:17 p.m.

Dalektable says... #11

I would suggest actually removing one set of insert three drop of your choice as you are pretty heavy there and you will probably want more one drops. I'd suggest either Soldier of the Pantheon or Favored Hoplite

April 16, 2014 9:19 p.m.

Talgor says... #12

I like it but you dont really have much lifegain to take advantage of Archangel of Thune

June 8, 2014 1:02 a.m.

smee342 says... #13

there are a few ways to win with mono white.

heres a link to my deck. just took 2nd place at my last fnm.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/elspeth-white-weenie/

id say -2 brimaz, -2 archangel -1 elspeth,

move the banishing light to the sidboard

make banishing priest a set of 4, add ajani presence and gods willing.

-2 heros of iros, use phalanx leader. and pegasus, the one that gives humans flying. and maybe azoirus arrester.

good luck

June 8, 2014 1:23 a.m.

smee342 says... #14

and if you are going to run this setup, ethereal armor is a must. :)

June 8, 2014 1:25 a.m.

PrimitiveGuy says... #15

Talgor I feel Thune is more of a finisher and by the time I get her out I should have a Fiendslayer out or a Hopeful Eidolon or the Blind Obedience or she herself gets life gain so I do not run into a problem.

June 9, 2014 1:05 a.m.

PrimitiveGuy says... #16

Smee342 thanks for the advice. I had done some things like you suggested before but I want to try and take this deck in a little different direction to both make it fast but also be strong late game.

June 9, 2014 1:10 a.m.

smee342 says... #17

good luck. +1 for going over my comment :)

June 9, 2014 1:24 a.m.

ownageban says... #18

4 brimaz is just to many, i would go down to 3. hero of iroas is nearly useless and hopeful eidolon feels pretty under powered. i would add 1 Path of Bravery for its absurdity with archangel and 4 Boros Elite to lower your curve plus battalion is easy to trigger with so many tokens for brimaz + precinct captain. Boros Reckoner is also sweet for devotion.

June 22, 2014 12:54 a.m.

PrimitiveGuy says... #19

Ownageban, thanks for your comments. It is funny you should say what you did because I have struggled with just about everything you mentioned. I agree that 4 brimaz is a lot and I just tossed in the hero of iroas because I did not know what else to put in and I thought it could help with bestow or be triggered itself. I put in the hopeful eidolon because of the life gain and to help with archangel but I am not locked in with any of the creatures I just mentioned. I also did have Path of Bravery in once but took it out for one reason or another but like the idea of putting it back in. I will try out your suggestions and see how it works. Thanks for your help!

June 22, 2014 9:42 a.m.

regnitteo says... #20

I like the theme of your deck, as I'm a big fan of Eidolon of Countless Battles myself :-)


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Standard regnitteo

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Regarding your sideboard: A spell that worked great for me versus creature-heavy decks is Glimpse the Sun God . It's very versatile and can be used to force inspired triggers and other stuff, as well as untapping your non-vigilant attackers for combat, etc.

Gods Willing might be a cheaper, though less powerful way to protect certain key-creatures, than Rootborn Defenses . Won't help against Supreme Verdict , but could save you from some Silence the Believers , Bile Blight and so on. Maybe you give it a shot!

June 26, 2014 4:06 a.m.

regnitteo says... #21

Just noticed your four copies of Brave the Elements what makes Gods Willing a kind of redundant / obsolete. Sorry suggesting that :-/

June 26, 2014 4:13 a.m.

PrimitiveGuy says... #22

Thanks for your help regnitteo. I like your idea about Glimpse the Sun God but what do you suggest I take out both in the sideboard and then when the time comes, in my main board?

June 26, 2014 7:08 a.m.

regnitteo says... #23

Aegis of the Gods imho isn't all too strong vs. decks that focus on lots (or big) creatures. Could be the one that leaves the sideboard for Glimpse the Sun God .

If you face some G/W or R/W token army you might replace Banisher Priest , versus mono-green Fiendslayer Paladin (first time attacking in R4) won't make a big impact I guess.

But that's just my two cents, as I definetly lack experience with competetive decks like this one. :-(

June 26, 2014 8:53 a.m.

PrimitiveGuy says... #24

regnitteo I agree about Aegis. Thanks. Not sure what you mean about Banisher and Fiendslayer. I am just confused about what you were saying with that. I also have a favor to ask and that is could you look at a new deck I just put up called Fun little R/W Aggro and tell me what you think. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks so much.

June 26, 2014 9:02 a.m.

regnitteo says... #25

What I meant regarding Banisher Priest is, that his triggered ability isn't that useful, when you lack a target to use it on. Exiling a 1/1 white soldier token is just not that exciting ;-D

Fiendslayer Paladin falls off, once creatures happen to have toughness > 2 so they survive the first-strike, what will be the case very soon versus a ramp-deck. That's what I wanted to point out.

June 26, 2014 9:13 a.m.

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