Wolves who bench Eldrazi: It's Better Than Yours

Standard Rasanck

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Rasanck says... #1

lonker go to starcitygames and use their advanced search to find one drop instants. I'd say things like Ranger's Guile, Immerwolf, Definitely Moonmist, everyone love Fog.

Grafdigger's Cage, Guttural Response for sideboard. stuff like dat.

June 22, 2016 11:22 a.m.

lonker says... #2

cool! i'll cosider trasforming this deck in 2017! (i removed all origins/dragons of tarkir card in this deck so i could play it for a year longer)

June 23, 2016 2:40 a.m.

kshock68 says... #3

Good grief! When Zada, Hedron Grinder stays on the battlefield, the damage and tokens are ridiculous...like stupid ridiculous!

Great job Rasanck! +1!

June 23, 2016 2:44 p.m.

Rasanck says... #4

kshock68 a few people seem to be intimidated by the black removal. I primarily play blue (I'm a monster, I know) so i'm used to holding back mana to make a play, or gamble by spending it all depending upon what's happened or what I think they can play. :P taking extra time to make wise, kind of long term ish choices really helps to play against the black removal.

June 23, 2016 2:53 p.m.

AbodoX says... #5

I've got to say... Keep up the good work!!

what an amazing deck, i'm currently building it to play at my local MTG store in DR.

Thank you.

June 24, 2016 3:28 a.m.

Noobtendencies says... #6

So I've taken the deck to two fnm's and haven't had much success, there's a ton of t1 decks at the locations I've gone to and most of what they play is just too fast. The last event I went up against mono white humans which was just way too fast for me to keep up with, second match was against a U/W aggro deck that took 4th at SCG orlando, and then I went up against B/G aristocrats which I went 1-2 and almost took that match but he ended up flipping a westvale abbey and that was all she wrote. It's a fun deck to play though and if I can get zada and partisan to stay on the board it's essentially game over. It just doesn't seem to happen often enough with the amount of removal at my local meta.

June 24, 2016 1:47 p.m.

clayperce says... #7

Rasanck,
Just wanted to make sure you saw the bigger, badder Zada Mirrorwing Dragon!

Wow and wow!

July 5, 2016 5:35 p.m.

Peteg413 says... #8

Adding Mirrorwing Dragon to this deck might be just what is needed to make this deck amazing

July 5, 2016 5:49 p.m.

lonker says... #9

But with Mirrorwing Dragon you can run the risk of all your wolves getting nerfed or even dying . I would just keep the Mirrorwing sideboarded if you ask me.

July 6, 2016 1:35 p.m.

Bloodveld says... #10

How so lonker? Reread the text on mirrorwing carefully.

July 6, 2016 11:54 p.m.

clayperce says... #11

Bloodveld,
I'm not sure what lonker meant, but there is some definite downside to Mirrorwing Dragon: It's really dangerous when you're at parity on boardstate or worse, because if an opponent casts a pump spell targeting Mirrorwing, all their Creatures get the pump :-(

That said, I still look forward to playing it mainboard!

July 7, 2016 8:23 a.m. Edited.

lonker says... #12

Oh I see Bloodveld, never mind what I said. I thought that any spell targeting Mirrorwing Dragon would target every creature on the board, including your own. So I thought using a removal or debuffing spell on it would target all your wolves as well. But it actually targets only the creatures of the player who cast it on their side. In this case, it's a worthy addition to the mainboard!

July 7, 2016 5:07 p.m.

campbellg14 says... #13

I just had a thought, but it may be wrong, so please check me on it. Zada says that a spell that only targets him is copied to all your creatures. Mirrorwing also says that a spell that only targets him is copied to all your creatures. If you have both Zada and Mirrorwing out at the same time, and target either one, the spell bounces to the other, which then bounces infinitely. This creates an infinite chain that cannot be interrupted. This is because both creatures have a "you copy that spell", NOT "you MAY copy that spell". You HAVE to copy that spell, so its infinite, which means you can't stop it, which means you would have to concede due to the infinite loop, or stare at the clock till time and draw. Now the only reason that I think I may be wrong is that on the bounce, the spell targets all of your creatures. So it's not ONLY Zada or Mirrorwing. But even still, I feel it may still be an infinite loop due to the fact that each copy targets ONLY Zada or Mirrorwing, so even though all your creatures are targeted with the copies, they are each targeted individually. NOT "All your creatures get _". Someone that is smarter than me, please check me on this and let me know. Cuz I hate to be the guy that brings bad news, but I'd hate even more to be the guy that brings INCORRECT bad news and ruin everything!!

July 7, 2016 5:28 p.m.

clayperce says... #14

campbellg14,
The key piece is "Whenever a player casts [a spell] that targets only ~ ... that player copies that spell for each other creature ..."

So if both Mirrorwing Dragon and Zada, Hedron Grinder are out and you cast a spell that targets one of them, you copy it to the other. But since you copied the spell rather than cast it, it won't bounce at all, let alone infinitely. :-)

July 7, 2016 7:25 p.m.

Bloodveld says... #15

clayperce you're right that the opponent can use your mirrorwing to buff himself, but remember thatA: few people use self buffsandB: few people will even know about mirrorwing's ability to do that

July 8, 2016 12:01 a.m.

clayperce says... #16

Bloodveld,
Yeah, it's no worries at all in the current meta (since Dromoka's Command can't trigger Mirrorwing). And once the EMN meta sorts out it may not matter there. But it would have been a really bad beat vs. the 4x Titan's Strength in Atarka Red ...

July 8, 2016 12:20 a.m.

stormsavant says... #17

Mirrorwing Dragon will be a great addition to this strategy. A 4/5 with flying is ok, but the fact that he will force your opponent to think twice about removing him is already his primary draw. In my point of view, there is no drawback. I believe Bloodveld is correct in the assumption that the meta doesn't see a lot of single-buff play. In the event that it happens anyway, your Mirrorwing is still ALSO getting buffed. Whether your opponent does this offensively, and your Mirrorwing blocks buffed, or does it defensively, and you're likely attacking with your Mirrorwing (and will possibly hit harder), you just can't NOT benefit. I personally relish at the idea of my opponent spending his mana to buff even one of my creatures. There is a bit if irony in your opponents assistance of their own defeat (if they decide to do just that).

July 8, 2016 11:57 a.m.

Brownkid09 says... #18

Guys! Super pumped for Eldritch Moon. All of the new werewolf cards are going to give this deck a fighting chance at my local FNM. Everyone here plays G/W tokens =( and the meta could use some shaking up!

Any thoughts on Waxing Moon? I am assuming if your target is Zada, Hedron Grinder, her trigger will copy this instant to all werewolves that are able to flip. And of course, your triggers will give you a bunch of 2/2 wolf tokens when Silverfur Partisan is out as well.

But besides all that, just imagine turn one Kessig Prowler, turn two moon and then flip into Sinuous Predator 4/4 body is not that bad. Same can be said about Ulvenwald Captive turn 3 or 4 moon into Ulvenwald Abomination for mana shenanigans or just a 4/6 body.

Spirit of the Hunt is going to be amazing for evasion and potential blowouts.

And let us not forget Ulrich of the Krallenhorde. Sure he is expensive but casting him and transforming him gives you two instances of +4/+4 and he acts as removal.

Thoughts on any of these comments? Did I miss anything interesting?

July 8, 2016 1:28 p.m.

clayperce says... #19

Brownkid09,
Sorry, but Waxing Moon doesn't work with Zada or Mirrorwing. They can't be targeted by a spell that can only target Werewolves.

July 8, 2016 5:20 p.m.

Zygomatic says... #20

What do you think of harness the storm? Couldnt it add more value to the instants?

July 9, 2016 5:55 a.m.

Zygomatic says... #21

And i guess that Eldritch Evolution could be a great way to speed up the combo:with any 2 drop at turn 2, Silverfur Partisan at turn 3, and Eldritch Evolution sacrificing the 2 drop into Zada, Hedron Grinder and saving an untapped land to dodge a Languish with Might of the Masses

July 9, 2016 6:31 a.m.

Brownkid09 says... #22

clayperce My mistake. I was assuming that any instant or sorcery that targets Zada would benefit from the copy trigger. Could anyone explain into detail why this would not work?

July 9, 2016 2:23 p.m.

clayperce says... #23

Brownkid09,
You can cast Waxing Moon no problem (since it says "up to one target"). But Zada is not a valid target (since she's not a Werewolf) so her ability won't trigger (since her card says the spell has to "target only Zada").

:-(

July 9, 2016 2:53 p.m.

ZoulZer0 says... #24

if I splash blue would slip through space be worth it?

July 9, 2016 11:02 p.m.

Cipher_8 says... #25

Very Nice build. I love this combo.

Made a couple of my own variants.


The Wolf Pack (Post Eldritch Standard)

Standard* Cipher_8

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Lemme know what you think, and if you have any suggestions or improvements.

July 10, 2016 3:08 p.m.

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