Wolves who bench Eldrazi: It's Better Than Yours
Standard
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saberclaw12 says... #2
What if i have 2 Zada, Silverfur and wolf on the battlefield and casts expedite on 1 zada, how many cards will i draw? and what if i casts might on 1 zada? thanks
April 22, 2016 11:23 a.m.
saberclaw12 Zada is a legendary creature and there cannot be two Zadas on the field at the same time without a state based check to sacrifice one of them that must be resolved then and nothing else can be played until that resolves.
But For giggles let's say you were playing a casual deck that had Mirror Gallery which says the legend rule doesn't apply and so you legally had two Zada, Hedron Grinders out by having mirror galley at the same time. You have 2 Zadas, you have a Silverfur Partisan, and one 2/2 wolf token. You cast expedite targeting a zada. Zada copies that spell onto Zada, Silerfur Partisan, and the 2/2 wolf, making a total of three copies of Expedite and one original spell for Four expedites that say 'Target Creature Gains Haste, draw a card.' Zada states a spell only targeting him must be cast and copied spells aren't cast, so they wouldn't trigger Zada's ability. Silverfur Partisan's ability would trigger twice, creating two new wolves, but they weren't targeted by Zada's ability when it resolves so you would draw four cards.
April 22, 2016 11:37 a.m. Edited.
saberclaw12 says... #4
Rasanck owh yeah i forgot about Zada being a Legendary creature. Anyways I'm building this deck i havent tried it out yet but this deck seems fun
+1
April 22, 2016 11:56 a.m.
saberclaw12 just be sure to wait until I update it. I've got a revision in the works lol
April 22, 2016 12:03 p.m.
I went 2-2 in Friday: Game 1 - Bant Tempo 2-0; Game 2 - UR Thing in the Ice control 0-2; Game 3 - BG Midrange 2-1; Game 4 - Mono Red Vampire Madness Aggro 0-2
The mainboard is modified with 2 Kessig Forgemaster Flip replacing Lambholt Pacifist Flip, a Titan's Strength replacing Vines of the Recluse and 2 Cinder Glade replacing a forest and a mountain.
Languish, Virulent Plague and Kozilek's Return are the bane of this deck. All black deck with instant speed removal can effectively break the combo by killing Zada, Hedron Grinder very fast. I think there may need a sideboard plan to board out the combo and tranform into a rush deck or board in bigger creature.
Thanks for the fun deck :D
April 23, 2016 5:40 p.m.
Never would have seen the Zada Synergy with Wolves if it wasn't for you. Goblin Riding a Werwolf ALL DAY!
April 24, 2016 4:59 a.m.
cutthroat_x says... #8
Honestly, this deck doesn't come off as competitive in my opinion. Very fun deck that I'll user impact tremors and Make my friends hate me in multiplayer casual games lol.
Unfortunately, the deck doesn't interact with the other deck and control its so powerful that glass cannon doesn't work
April 24, 2016 11 a.m.
cutthroat_x besides moonlight hunt, rabid Bite, and there are plenty of done drop spells that interact with enemies that you can sideboard in your own favorite control.
April 24, 2016 6:56 p.m.
Brownkid09 says... #12
I love this deck! Totally going to try and play this at my local.
Quick question:
Thoughts on card inclusions such as Cinder Glade, Swell of Growth and Earthen Arms?
I am guessing Cinder Glade is a decent card but could be too slow.
I like Swell of Growth specifically for the mana ramping, but again not sure what to cut since the deck is constructed very well. I could Just imagine triggering an Expedite, drawing into a Swell of Growth and just dropping a bunch of land from your hand.
Earthen Arms is an interesting card too, since you could potentially turn all of your 2/2 wolf tokens into 4/4 tokens, while still triggering your Silverfur Partisan + Zada, Hedron Grinder combo. Maybe if we are lucky we could prevent a devastating board wipe with Idk, Languish?
Just some thoughts I had. Again, this deck is too good!
April 24, 2016 9:23 p.m.
Rasanck,
I REALLY like revision 8. This would be a great deck at any price, but it's an absolute thing of beauty at only $62!
Good luck (and good skill) at Game Day!
April 29, 2016 10:30 a.m.
Thanks a lot, clayperce. I've been thinking long and hard about what will make my deck function the best and have the most conformity, and what will really help make my deck move. I cut a lot of dead weight out of this deck and put in cards that will make it a run for someone's money. This deck feels like it's been overhauled just because of how well it runs. The biggest thing I've gotten was removing all the things that just end up being gimmicky dead weight. The creatures were the biggest overhaul (that then allowed me to put Howlpack resurgence in). The next biggest and almost as equally important overhaul was the sideboard. I knew I needed my sideboard to be the answer to a whole host of different decks that might screw me up, so I've gone for a very controlling sideboard. Sideboarding for specific control is what I think will give my deck an advantage over the other decks now that my board is a lot more uniform an synergistic.
April 29, 2016 10:49 a.m.
clayperce as a sidenote yesterday I was playing at the shop against people. I gave all my creatures +338/+338 and I attacked with one creature that had trample lol.
April 29, 2016 10:56 a.m.
That was an inspiring update. What's your next gameplan?
May 2, 2016 8:59 a.m.
Rasanck,
Congrats on the 3-1 and yes, I do appreciate the 84,547 damage!
SO EPIC! :-)
There's a ton of CoCo here in town and I'm seriously thinking about splashing Blue for Dispel to deal with it. With Slip Through Space as an added bonus. Have you considered?
May 2, 2016 9:06 a.m.
snarlmkiv I was very happy of only losing to bant company. I saw ZERO people playing Westvale Abbey so I might consider taking out two Crumble to Dust and a Display of Dominance to sideboard in three Fiery Impulse
clayperce i mean if you're considering splashing blue that opens a ton of cards including Glint which makes all your creatures hexproof with Zada lol.
May 2, 2016 9:20 a.m.
AlCelestino it's mostly in there for delirium. It doesn't activate Zada's ability, but it does allow Zada to deal three damage to a creature if you other creatures aren't more buff.
May 3, 2016 2:44 p.m.
Super reliant on Zada, and super slow out the gate. Clunky mana base. But when it does work its super crazy, but honestly cannot recommend for FNM or any competitive scenario.
May 7, 2016 11:49 p.m.
Aventh I got second place at FNM by running this exact deck. How about you shove off instead of talking like you won an international. Two whole matches I didn't even summon Zada because I was killing it with aggro wolves and with the control even though I had Zada in hand. It's straight forward, buffing creatures isn't dependent upon Zada, might of the masses isn't dependent upon Zada, Zada is an amplifier, not the thing that is the only reason the deck works. A deck with an average CMC shouldn't be slow unless YOU'RE playing it wrong.
Rasanck says... #1
Ch3cksum I've revised this deck six times so far, and so the thing I'm currently running is slightly different then what's on the board. I don't have Lambholt Pacifist Flip in here but instead I have a Duskwatch Recruiter Flip and a Rabid Bite lol. I've also got four evolving wilds. I couldn't find Hermit of the Natterknolls Flip so I'm currently running a Howlpack Resurgence and an extra Vines of the Recluse in its place. I've been consistently getting delirium with this.
I very, very commonly get a land, creature, and Instant in the graveyard, so usually the last thing bounces between sorcery, enchantment, or planeswalker.
April 22, 2016 8:21 a.m. Edited.