Xantcha Combo-Control

Commander / EDH mmcgeach

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mmcgeach says... #1

@Lord_Nottingham, I'd go for more relevant interaction. Depends on the kinds of combos, but I'd add the Red Elemental Blast and Nihil Spellbomb , assuming the combos are GY or backed by blue-decks. If you're not playing against green-based decks then you can drop a couple pyroclasms. If you're in pods of 3 combo decks, try to play politics and get them to help stop each other. If they're all uninteractive linear combo decks... I guess I'd try to play another deck or (better yet) play with other opponents. ;)

I don't think the deck has much synergy with a stax build; it hoses the storm plan in particular. I guess you could drop all the rituals and Bonus Round stuff, and add in stax artifacts... but there aren't actually much good stax cards in Black, and in Red it's... there's some hatebears but that doesn't really apply here.

You might be interested in my actual CEDH Stax Deck, The Great Radhaggro. It's very good against combo decks.

June 3, 2019 10:28 a.m.

WERTPRO says... #2

mmcgeach Will there be an update for Modern Horizons?

June 16, 2019 3:05 a.m.

mmcgeach says... #3

@WERTPRO: you know, there isn't a whole lot in Modern Horizons for this deck. There's no RB land, we already had a RB talisman, there's not much for a storm archetype in the whole set, or reanimator for that matter.

So, I haven't actually seen anything that looks good for Xantcha. :(

June 17, 2019 1:44 p.m.

WERTPRO says... #4

Will there be an update for Hauptset 2020?

June 26, 2019 7:45 a.m.

mmcgeach says... #5

Yeah. I think Vilis, Broker of Blood will find a spot. :)

June 26, 2019 8:53 a.m.

Namtar says... #6

Oh Paradox Engine banned! Maybe replace with Monolith/Rings?

July 8, 2019 11:24 a.m.

CommanderPatsy says... #7

Yea I'm really curious what to replace for this deck, I'm wondering what about Aetherflux Reservoir to combo with Top and Citadel?

July 8, 2019 8:36 p.m.

mmcgeach says... #8

So, I think Aetherflux + Citadel is ok. Paradox Engine was good, but we have to move past that. Also Vilis needs to get in. Card is awesome.

July 18, 2019 9:19 p.m.

Hissp says... #9

What do you think of Anje Falkenrath? Better, worse or different?

August 2, 2019 10 a.m.

NAHS901 says... #10

They just nuetered this deck by errataing the fact that she comes back under owners control and instead you now have to re-cast her.

Whats your take on working around this?

August 20, 2019 9:42 p.m.

Kannibal says... #11

NAHS901 Honestly, the errata makes the deck better. Now you can kill everyone deterministically after making infinite mana. When Xantcha's controller dies, she gets exiled, you recast her, give her to the next person, and repeat.

August 23, 2019 7:08 p.m.

Kannibal It hurts her because you cannot kill at instant speed now. The work around we have come up with in the discord is to run Comet Storm over rolling earthquake and kill after you create infinite mana.

August 24, 2019 11:31 a.m.

Klancik says... #13

Doesnt this mean we need more creatures in the deck to reliably break the worldgorger loop? We can still win with her we just have to recast her.

August 30, 2019 6:22 p.m.

mmcgeach says... #14

@NAHS901: It only hurts the instant-speed win with Necromancy + WGD. We just have to add a Comet Storm now.

@Kannibal: maybe? I never had trouble killing her off before; but now it's a little easier.

@CommanderPatsy: exactly right... :)

@Klancik: I don't think you need more creatures, if you can draw into Comet Storm that basically solves all your problems. The WGD loop doesn't need to end.

Being able to over-draw and draw cards equal to your deck is a decent upgrade to how we had to do this before. :D

September 3, 2019 11:37 a.m.

goodwining says... #15

Will underworld breach be added to the list? Not sure what to take out for it but a 1 mana cheaper YW seems like a great add

February 10, 2020 2:08 p.m.

Farycane says... #16

Hey, are you still upgrading this list? I have some questions

why Fellwar Stone over Arcane Signet?

why Bloodchief Ascension without Mindcrank

Praetor's Grasp Shouldn't be in the maybe board, if your WGD somehow gets exiled, this can open the way to a win

why Tormenting Voice over Thrill of Possibility last is instant and does the same

Just Vilis as Backup target for the WGD loop isn't enough. If you can't end your loop, in some occasions you only get a draw instead of a win. Sire or Rune-Scarred Demon work well for me :)

Bojuka Bog since Nihil Spellbomb is in your maybe board.

March 21, 2020 12:39 p.m.

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