Thx Omniscience_is_life! Seshiro is in the deck from the very beginning already. Solid buff plus draw can’t be wrong. And you’re right with Hapatra. Played Hapatra before and always wanted to build a Locust god wheels deck and now I got the perfect mix of both :-)

First off, great deck name. Secondly, this deck is quite impressive, but I noticed a lack of X spells to really take advantage of the massive mana generation. Finale of Devastation is a solid pick though! I'll throw an upvote to this

Thx UmbrotheUmbreon.

I never planned to use x spells here. I thought about it but it’s tempting to sink a lot of mana into them and get screwed if they’re countered. Minds aglow dodges that Problem and finale is just a tutor or hard wincon depending on what you need. The deck is build to generate enough mana to storm off, it can produce absurd amounts of mana but when that happens it usually means i won anyway and don’t need an extra x-spell to sink my mana into it. I’m quite happy with how the deck performs so far in about 50 or so games

What matters most is how you feel the deck pilots and what it needs. Either way it's a great looking deck, but no way in hell one I'd be able to afford haha. Best of luck in your future games with it.

You could cut the price down to 1/3 by jus replacing 5 cards and wouldn’t lose too much power UmbrotheUmbreon

This decklist looks awesome. I built a similar list a while back that's a little bit more group huggy but runs similar cards. One thing that I found that I think would run well in the deck is kyren negotiations. It's similar to your goblin bombardment but you get to keep the tokens.

Heya Aecyn, thx for your suggestion. I didn’t even think of that card and it could be good. I’ll have to test that and see if it’s worth the slot. 4 mana is a lot and while I can keep my tokens I don’t get any other use out of them. Bombardment does kill the tokens but I can tap them for earthcraft before or attack with them and still sac them for extra dmg while I can’t do that with negotiations. I’ll give them a test and see how they perform :-)

Ill be trying both at the same time. Didn't mean to suggest it as a replacement for bombardment. I just like that you can generate snakes and immediately tap them to deal damage. And if you happen to have both out you can sac them after. In the case that someone is on a tighter budget too it is a much more affordable option.

Didn’t see your suggestion as a replacement Aecyn. But tapping them for 1 dmg is less value than atacking with a beastmaster ascension or shared animosity in play and less value than tapping them for mana with earthcraft. Yes it would be good if I don’t draw one of those options, but I have to test that and see how often I actually would use it and how often it’s a dead card to see if it’s worth to include. I really like that card but I don’t know yet if it’s viable for me.

Maybe Throne of the God-Pharaoh, considering a potential game-plan is to swing out anyway?

Heya YNotBro, had that in my first list and quickly realized that it doesn’t matter. The turn I go off there won’t be an endstep anymore to trigger it, so I decided to cut it.

Triumph of the hordes is a great card for snakes

Heya TallKanz211. Our playgroup plays with 20 poison counters to be lethal in commander. We doubled that because life total is doubled in commander too. That house-rule makes infect less effective and that’s why I didn’t include it

Nice build! Just made one similar (Deck name is Don't step on snek). Have you thought of Altar of the brood, folio of fancies, or library of leng? Actually won the other day milling everyone out. As your making snakes and milling them out.

Had altar in the deck first GunBoss316 but it doesn’t do much for me. I should have won the game by the point it matters and eldrazi titans in my meta prevent mill wins. For leng and folio, I don’t breaks need them. Max handsize is nothing I need with the wheels and the draw x on folio is too expensive for my liking with the double x

thoughts on Inner Calm, Outer Strength

Just came back from playing afew xyris games. Phyrexian Altar > Temple Bell > xyris . sac snakes for a 3 drop wheel was a nice play. if you can think of something more efficient let me know.

I find cards that double card draw over doubling tokens seemed more powerful. Psychic Possession or Elemental Bond

Personally i think Azusa, Lost but Seeking is better then the dryad, personally would prefer the land drops over mana fixing.

would use the talismans over the chromatic lantern and thought vessel. kinda feel that mana fixing is better left for land base

Gruul War Chant isnt as explosive as other cards, but i feel the menace is underrated

Seshiro the Anointed looks cool but i kind of feel its just a weaker createrhoof. and even if you figure to keep seshiro i kinda of feel cards like this could benefit from Natural Order being basically gg with enough snakes.

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Mission Briefing is a serious contender for being better then snapcaster mage in this deck, i kind of like the surveil for consistency over a body in this format.

Heya floopthepig, I got a few questions here. „Phyrexian Altar > Temple Bell > xyris . sac snakes for a 3 drop wheel was a nice play. if you can think of something more efficient let me know.“: What combo am I missing here? phyrexian altar is obviously good with tokens but how does temple bell fit in here and what does it make a 3 drop wheel?

How does Elemental Bond double my card draw when my whole deck only plays 3 creatures with power 3 or more? 4 if you count purphoros which most likely never has enough devotion to be one.

Dryad is way better than Azusa here because of Earthcraft. It makes my basics produce all mana colors which is a huge advantage when comboing off as I don’t need 1 of all 3 basics in play, same is true for chromatic lantern. Thought vessel could be replaced here and will in the future but i need to find some nice rock that produces all 3 colors for it. Maybe I’m going for mox diamond or amber there.

The menace of Gruul war chant doesn’t matter much. I would have to attack with 20 tokens to kill and when I do that I don’t need menace. Shared animosity gets the job done too if my opponent can’t block at least 19 of them.

Craterhoof is nice but I prefer Seshiro. An early craterhoof does nothing other than giving my commander like +2/+2 which is a bit lackluster for 8 mana. All tokens that follow don’t get any bonus at all from it. Seshiro buffs tokens that come into play after it hits the field too. Natural order was cut from the list, without craterhoof it doesn’t do much here since it only fetches green creatures. Finale of devastation does better here, early it’s a nice tutor and later it’s like a craterhoof that tutors a creature.

Mission briefing is nice in other decks but for sure worse than snapcaster here. The surveil doesn’t do much as an upside but there are quite a few downsides: It’s harder to cast with double blue, doesn’t trigger impact tremors or purphoros, doesn’t count for cards like xenegos, earthcraft, cradle, battle hymn to pay for itself or even net mana, can’t be sacrificed to phyrexian altar or goblin bombardment and finally can’t be equipped with skullclamp to draw 2 cards. Snapcaster does all these things and I prefer that over surveil 2.

Ok ty for the response , as far as elemental bond went Im sure I replaced that with kindred discovery must have messed my copy pasta up.

Temple bell. if you did go turn 1 earth craft, crypt. turn 2 temple bell , turn 3 or 4 xyris tap said bell you could hypothetically cast wheel of fortune or windfall. i guess what i was asking is to say is this kind of play worth adding temple bell for or is it just meh. (mostly a dispute i was having with a friend after i cut my bell)

And ty for your points about color fixing and sheshiro, they really put it into perspective.

All my nit picking aside xD you have a really cool deck and I look forward to see how you progress it and i will be stealing your ideas xD

I honestly thought about adding temple bell in combination with Mind Over Matter floopthepig. I don’t think it would make the deck better but I love mind over matter a lot. The quad blue in the cost just make it a bit hard to cast. Your point on the talisman was pretty solid. Prob search my UR taslisman tomorrow and replace thought vessel with it. I like that idea more than a mox amber tbh.

As far as kindred discovery goes, 5 mana is a lot and it has some serious risk to deck myself. Windfalling everyone for 14 new cards could easily kill myself mid combo when I have to draw my 14 plus 42 from my opponents or 82 with a token doubler. I like to stay away from that and did chose teferis ageless insight for that place. 1 mana less and far less risky

Take your updoot for the name alone.

Lol thx enpc, but it’s just a fact. I hope you liked the deck a bit too and not just the name

Damn this deck is awesome! I'm a BIG fan and I think I found the next commander to build around and maybe even tweak to my liking. Have you thought about Kindred Discovery? It's really solid and draws a metric fuck ton of cards (maybe even too many cards)

Im glad you like it CheapBastard. And yes, I thought about kindred discovery. I’m a big fan of it but not so much here. While the card gives you a ton of draw it may easily kill you in a multiplayer game. In a 4 Player game you draw 28 cards for a classical wheel with it in play. You draw 49 if you have a token doubler or 56 with teferis ageless insight, 98 if you have both in play. Could be even more cards if it’s something like Windfall instead of a draw 7 wheel.

So far I didn’t have any problems caused by a lack of card draw. There’s just so much draw in the deck that you really don’t need kindred discovery and it isn’t worth the risk of decking yourself imho. It’s just a win more at best but could be a serious problem for yourself.