Himself_The_Decker says... #2
Any sugestion on what to replace Drana, Liberator of Malakir with? Currently got only one and thanks to the price hike going around don't feel like snatching a second one.
As for Eerie Interlude, it's sideboard for now. Running more control (via exile) is still a must on my venue. Still, as soon as matchups start to turn from enchantment and artifacts that make life miserable, Interlude goes full live.
April 15, 2016 3:34 p.m.
The real beauty of a B/W Vampire Ally deck is it's versatility - you can tailor the deck to your own play-style and have a wide range of good cards to choose from. I personally avoid Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim simply because I focus on flooding the field with cheap-to-summon creatures that work together in a life gain/drain strategy. The idea of sacrificing creatures just seems to slow the game down too much. If you particularly need the extra life points, Ayli and Lantern Scout are good in a side-board. For similar reasons, limit Bloodbond Vampire and Cliffhaven Vampire to 2 of each, or they could slow you down in the early game. I see Drana, Liberator of Malakir and Always Watching as aggression accelerators.
With Captain's Claws generating tokens, you can feed off sacrifices that pump you through Ayli, all creatures through Indulgent Aristocrat or 1 creature with Nantuko Husk. If you want to go this route, I would suggest that you commit fully to that strategy - otherwise drop it.
I have a personal aversion to paying life for an effect and would rather use other removal cards than Anguished Unmaking, but at the same time see how valuable it can be as a versatile, remove-anything card.
For full-out life drain, I would tend to drop Lantern Scout for Accursed Witch Flip, which you want your opponent to destroy to create an additional Drana's Emissary, which I would keep at 4-of. If you want to go wider with the life gain/drain Pious Evangelist could replace Expedition Envoy, and, there is always Alms of the Vein which could replace your Oath of Gideon/Gideon, Ally of Zendikar which, while good cards, do not add to this theme.
April 16, 2016 6:15 a.m.
For Pious Evangelist in the above post, read Pious Evangel Flip
April 16, 2016 6:25 a.m.
pi_is_great says... #5
A good combo in this deck could be Exquisite Blood + Sanguine Bond
April 16, 2016 7:20 p.m.
Himself_The_Decker says... #6
Deck's meant to be standard, so both are no-go. Tnx for the sugestion, though!
Will take a look on your sugestion... Liked the whole Pious Evangel Flip for even more passive damage!
April 17, 2016 4:27 p.m.
Himself_The_Decker says... #7
I'll have you know that Accursed Witch Flip made this deck a hell of lot better.Tnx for the suggestion!
April 17, 2016 8:16 p.m.
I feel four cutthroats and four march from the tombs make this deck a lot better. Also recommend trying out collective efforts and selfless spirits in the mainboard or maybe sideboard.
August 21, 2016 12:49 a.m.
Himself_The_Decker says... #9
Nice call on the Collective Effort, Skaloper!
Plenty of creatures to use for the escalate, so going for removal + buff isn't really hard. Also, Selfless Spirit will most likely make side, especially against wipe-happy decks.
As for Zulaport Cutthroat and March from the Tomb, former is way too "squishy" (come on, WoTC! just 1 life on that guy?!) while latter mostly serves as finisher, considering the sheer number of allies already on the field.
August 21, 2016 7:46 p.m.
Hagra Diabolist? works well if you're dropping multiple allies at once
August 24, 2016 1:41 p.m.
Himself_The_Decker says... #12
'cept deck's meant to be standard, Denbean. Non-competitive (t'least in local venues), but standard nevertheless. Would run it on a modern BW Allies, tho.
August 24, 2016 2:45 p.m.
My brother and I co-run this our tapped out account. He also runs a B/W Allies Lifegain/Drain deck. I will post it here, but it hasn't been updated in the past few days though it still carries the same weight. Get yourself some Defiant Bloodlords because that is drain like you can't believe. Stuff like Cliffhaven Vampire only hits opponents for 1 per lifegain source while the Bloodlords equally trade for life.
August 26, 2016 9:56 a.m.
Also, get some Retreat to Emerias for your deck. Triggering Lantern Scout and Kalastria Healer every time you play a land.
August 26, 2016 9:58 a.m.
Himself_The_Decker says... #16
Would probably sidedeck the enchant, The_Grape.
Tried running with a pair in a early build, but the constant dependency on lands made it a bit underwhelming. Even with only a pair, they mostly came either too early or too late to make a real difference.
Anyways, thanks for the suggestion and will try and see if draw timing gets a little better.
August 26, 2016 10:08 a.m.
Himself_The_Decker says... #17
Saw the first comment too late to make only one post, The_Grape...
As for Defiant Bloodlord, 7 CVC is way too much. For that, I can field both Cliffhaven Vampire and a fully equiped Captain's Claws on a second guy, or just straight up going for Gideon, Ally of Zendikar and Drana, Liberator of Malakir. Sure, getting 1:1 life gain/drain is awesome, but with that cost it's quite a late game move.
August 26, 2016 10:15 a.m.
I agree with you, my brother has lost a few games from the mana cost alone not able to anguished unmake my mean things. But some games, where turn 2 and 3 he got out 2 kalastria healers and turn 4 he got out cliffhaven vampire, he found it amazing when he got lantern scout and another creature that I forget that gets a counter every time you gain life. Honestly, it depends on what deck you are facing in my opinion. BTW you need Blighted Steppe for that instant lifegain to make enemies lose a ton in return. It becomes very useful.
August 26, 2016 10:36 a.m.
Himself_The_Decker says... #19
The_Grape, you're probably talking about Bloodbond Vampire (the lifegain/counter card).
As for Blighted Steppe (or Shambling Vent, if you got the cash to spare) and Defiant Bloodlord, springing for Alhammarret's Archive would make for an insane combo, ending the game without a infinite combo (Sanguine Bond + Exquisite Blood).
A little advice on your deck, if I may: swap both Allied Reinforcements for two extra Captain's Claws. Swing with claws on first turn, then give the new tokens the claws and go on breeding more tokens with no risk whatsoever.
Also, add some extra removal. You got the right idea with Anguished Unmaking, just need to make it happen.
August 26, 2016 11:10 a.m.
Thanks for the help! I will tell my brother, he almost won game day with it, but he had some mana and removal problems as you suggested.
August 26, 2016 11:13 a.m.
electronuke2 says... #21
As an ally player who has created four ally standard decks two modern ally decks and a general Tazri commander deck, this is one of the weaker ally decks that are standard legal. Instead of Evolving Wilds and Forsaken Sanctuary, you should add Shambling Vent for versatility (it is better in every aspect for this deck). Ondu War Cleric is also one of the worst if not the worst ally ever printed. You can put so much more from 2 more Zulaport Cutthroat or really anything. Other than that, this is what I believe to be the most typical B/W ally deck you could make (This was actually very similar to the first one I made). Note: The other standard ally deck options are equipment allies (can be in many colors), Abzan Company allies, quantity allies, and a few more.
August 29, 2016 12:01 a.m.
I would dump Ondu War Cleric and Vampire Envoy for Lone Rider Flip (which will flip very early). Paying 2cmc for a 4/4 creature with first strike, trample and life-link is just too good to pass on. I like Retreat to Hagra ahead of Campaign of Vengeance, which is expensive to summon. I am not too sure about Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim and would still try to work in Accursed Witch and Alms of the Vein (moving Ayli, Declaration and March) to the side-board. My mirror match deck is Life and Death Revived, where I have focussed more aggressively on the life gain/drain.
Murphy77 says... #1
Eerie Interlude is a fun way to re-summon all your allies Kalastria Healer, Cliffhaven Vampire and Bloodbond Vampire. Drana, Liberator of Malakir would add value to the deck. You could also play around with the vampire theme, splashing red for something like Life and Death SOI Vampires (Mardu)
April 15, 2016 2:56 p.m.