Abzkaban Yeah you're right... Deck looks fun.
Inkmoth - awesome breakdown of all the cards and plays.
May 22, 2020 7:50 a.m.
Inkmoth- I love the deck and have built it with a few minor changes to fit my meta. +1 from me
One valuable addition that you might consider, however, is Polukranos, World Eater. Unless I'm missing something, he can kill the table's creatures to set up a Shaman of Forgotten Ways win with infinite mana by himself without needing to set up an Ulvenwald Tracker loop.
June 16, 2020 8:44 p.m.
apohl13: Polukranos, World Eater actually used to be in the deck alongside Kamahl, Fist of Krosa as the kill-all-creatures/lands finisher. :)
I love Polukranos, his issue however, is that he costs 4 mana to bring out and outside of the kill turn he was rarely used as removal. Unlike Ulvenwald Tracker, which can be a good interaction piece leading up to his eventual win loop. Tracker loops are as hard to accomplish as infinite mana loops are, so if you weren't stopped before getting there then the convoluted nature of tracker loops are negligible at that point.
June 18, 2020 4:17 p.m.
Inkmoth- Thank you for the clarification!
I'm actually about to play this deck against other people for the first time tonight, wish me luck :)
June 18, 2020 4:55 p.m.
Hey Inkmoth!
Thank you very much for your build and I'm really enjoying it as my first EDH deck to start with.
I'm planning to build this deck someday once quarantine ends but I'm still fixing up my buylist before I commit into the game. I got a few questions that I hope you can answer when you are free.
1) I've only been playing this deck online so far but I saw your comment on using Hyrax Tower Scout and Kogla, the Titan Ape to replace Cloudstone Curio. Would it be viable for this version or the exclusion of Cloudstone would make the deck too slow?
2) Is there any replacements for old cards like Heartwood Storyteller and Touch of Vitae since my country/LGS doesn't have a lot of old cards?
3) How exactly do you use Glademuse? I find that my opponent gets more value than I do. Am I suppose to bounce the Glademuse back via Temur Sabertooth or Cloudstone Curio, so my opponents don't capitalize on it?
4) Any thoughts on the cards below to be put in the deck?
Castle Garenbrig, Vivien, Monsters' Advocate, Nylea, Keen-Eyed
Sorry for the long wall of text.
August 2, 2020 2:24 a.m.
Hi Uzeep!
I am absolutely delighted by your comment and I am very honored to know it's your first deck. Thank you so much!!! <3
1) Kogla, the Titan Ape + Hyrax Tower Scout are absolutely perfect replacements, also opens lines up with Eternal Witness for Benefactor's Draught/Vitalize/Touch of Vitae (I'll address this one dw). I wouldn't say slower, since we can actually tutor it whereas Cloudstone Curio has to be drawn or topped off with Genesis Hydra.
2) Heartwood Storyteller has been quite the critical piece, however, I can see it being replaced by Ohran Frostfang, though I were leaning a little into the top-heavy side with this build. I hope your meta isn't too fast as this deck falls by the wayside in T4 metas. As for Touch of Vitae, this is a bit of a lynchpin of sorts as haste the MAIN reason we run it, it ensures that the dork we brought out can actually be used and to win... with an untap. I wouldn't compromise on this card, if it's too difficult for you to obtain add my discord I might be able to help you out. (Inkmoth#4507)
3) Glademuse should be played:
- When you can guarantee 1-2 draws on the rotation you drop it,
- Early on, as most decks are in set up.
- Outlet; try to seal your loops with Prowling Serpopard or bouncing the muse if better outlet achieved
- This one applies to Heartwood Storyteller as well: right before a combo player is going to try to win. i.e resp to Ad Nauseam. We want to give our opponents cards in these situations. The more of the deck we see the easier it becomes to set up lines.
- This is more of practice makes perfect bullet, but the MORE your familiarize yourself with the deck you'll see how giving your opponents cards is meaningless if you can win on top of their wincons. So if you see a line don't jam it out, just wait till the last possible moment.
On discord I would be more than happy to discuss your meta to better assess Glademuse timing
Card Recommendations:
- Castle Garenbrig: Run it, doesn't hurt. I'll slot it in! Thank you! :)
- Vivien, Monsters' Advocate: Same reason we don't run Vizier of the Menagerie, except it costs 5, it's sorc speed, it's random and we don't manipulate the top of the deck too much.
- Nylea, Keen-Eyed: I love it, haven't found a slot for it though. Maybe if Glademuse is that much of an issue this can be your outlet... though drawing is substantially stronger.
August 2, 2020 3:43 a.m.
Hi Inkmoth,
Thank you for the fast reply, man!
I really appreciate your comment and it kinda helps me out on understanding the line of play you're going with.
1) The Cloudstone replacement is perfect for me since locally not many people are selling it. I'll probably test more of the it out online to get the feel for the timing.
2) Regarding the Vivien, I treated it as a Mini-Yisan kind of effect? But I don't think the payoff is that great unless I'm going to win on that turn or tutoring a gamebreaking card like Shaman of Forgotten Ways.
I've sent you a Discord friend request as well. Name's Uzeep#2220. Hope to talk to you more there!
Do let me know what's your timezone as I think it's nearly 4 am now on your side. I'll try to accomodate to you on the timing ^^.
August 2, 2020 4:50 a.m.
For those who're following the thread, Uzeep's questions were answered via Discord. However, the main thing I wanted to address in his comment is his mention of tutoring Shaman of Forgotten Ways. It is NEVER in our gameplan to tutor this, so we never care about where this card is until we've established Infinite Mana and an Outlet, only then do we look for kill loops which is also when the sky's the limit.
Due to his region certain cards were unavailable, so we also brewed up some changes to rectify this. His variation will be exactly the same with the following exceptions:
Creature (6)
Enchantment (3)
Instant (2)
August 3, 2020 2:55 p.m.
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Hey guys!! I am playing Yeva with my pod tonight! Come join us. It's gonna be Urza, Kinnan, Curious Control, and Neheb.
August 29, 2020 9:35 p.m.
it's very nice that so many good new cards could fit into this budget version too. that's great to see. I like the fact that this deck is creatures only now. all the artifacts are gone except Sol Ring. the budgetless version is looking really good too. the fact that you were able to remove the need for all the artifcts in the deck is so good.
October 6, 2020 5:59 p.m.
Fallerup: The move from artifacts to creatures has made astronomically better and way more consistent than it ever was. I'm glad you're enjoying the list! Don't forget to check out the discord, you can see what is being worked on as well as check how she's doing as we have a community now tracking their games to see how she fares.
October 7, 2020 2:03 p.m.
ItsMrRainbow says... #13
Hi Inkmoth! i just wanted to say this deck is so much fun i bought the cards for the deck and i have had great success and very interactive games with it. that being said, any plans for the deck? im looking forward for any upgrades you have for it.
Abzkaban says... #1
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The combos are how the deck wins. If you want to play Yeva without infinite combos, you’re basically looking at a different deck. Just ramp big and play big creatures at instant speed. There are several non-infinite win cons available for lower powered metas. You’d just be trampling the board.
May 21, 2020 9:38 p.m.