With the fresh ban on paradox engine, i think force of vigor or collector ouphe makes it in

J3FF97 & l13199l:

Thank you guys for keeping up with the Yeva. The deck is being worked on day and night. A lot of changes are coming, so stay tuned.

Though it saddens me deeply to lose Paradox Engine , it was never a make it or break it kind of card. Its replacement will most likely be Cloudstone Curio , with the eventual loss of Primal Command we need a new contingency if Temur Sabertooth gets exiled. Force of Vigor , Emerald Medallion , and Shared Summons are currently being tested, which why I don't want to make changes until testing proves their worth over what they replaced.

Inkmoth Thank you for your reply.

I agree that engine was never a make it or break it card. I've played this deck quite a bit (without Cradle & Mana crypt I should add, I'm still getting those) and while it definitely helped, I've won plenty of games without it.

I think as an emergency measure (huzzah. Tournament coming this week at my LGS.) I'll return Curio, at least temporarily.

I'm personally not too sure about force, yet. In my opinion the deck has enough ways to deal with threats, but at the same time a little bit more redundancy can't hurt?

I wish I could do some proper testing, but I believe my meta levels to be too diverse for proper assessment.

J3FF97: Wow, that is super awesome!! I'm so happy you're having fun with it :D! If you're available to sometime, feel free to hmu. I love knowing how other people are liking the deck, what they would change, what they wish was different, so that I get multiple perspectives on the same deck.

As for testing, it sucks some times... Takes me about 200 goldfishes before I feel comfortable with a change and then I throw it at cEDH metas for about 20-30 games. Of which I win 15%-20% of them as the bonafide underdog, then I throw it at other optimized lists and win about 60-70% of the time. It may seem like a temporary fix, but honestly, Cloudstone Curio might be the permanent replacement. Give me till the end of the week for more solid testing as I've been hit with this news today.

RIP paradox. you will be remembered when I use you at a Gp. Yes, I had to give Buckshot11 5 dollars to use it, but it was worth it when I combod off on turn 3. also, Check out his selvala Cedh list [buckstot11's].

Fellin22: :'( Sucks, but oh well, it cuts the avg cmc of this deck :D

I'll be sure to check it out!

Inkmoth Sure! Lemme know how to contact you and we can have a chatter. Again, I might not be the most amazing person to give their opinion due to a vastly varying meta + I'm still learning the deck, but I have at least 75 games with it since I started building it (thus, in varying states of completeness starting at the budget version.) I'm always available on twitter @J3FF97X ^_^

Hey Inkmoth sorry to bug you -- did your friend ever make that windgrace list?

CyborgAeon: He did, but he doesn't have an online version. He's also changing it often enough to keep up with our pod so I really don't know the list by memory. It's just a standard MLD deck with a lot of early interaction and acceleration into an MLD effect. He run W&6, Xenagos, and Freyalise to yield value after.

Ok cool. Thanks, dude.

CyborgAeon: Due to your comment, I have managed to convince my friend to post it. He plans to post it and once he's done with it, I will tag you on it :D.

CyborgAeon: this is the infamous Windgrace I go against on a regular basis at my game nights.

https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/lord-windgrace-the-denier/

Big congrats on this achievement!

Last week I got my list sleeved up and got the first few games in. I really love the potential for explosive turns that nobody sees coming

l13199l: Thank you so much! and congratulations on getting the list sleeved, hope you have a lot of a fun with it.

Get ready for when people start to catch on, that's when the deck gets even funner and challenging.

I love how this deck looks. I really want to polish mine up to look half this good.

RNR_Gaming: Dude, thanks a lot!! :D Hmu with a link when you do, I'd love to support it.

I messaged the scktchtapped sleeves guy. Just the background all the coding and updates make this all really stand out. I can tell this was a labor of love and you definately deserve one of the top slots on the site. I main Yisan and this deck definitely gives me the same vibe.

I hope he does. I built that deck too minus a cradle. I had been playing a watered down yisan before that and once I built Wander's song I haven't been able to enjoy pioleting any other green decks; Yisan just does it all. This deck definitely looks sweet though; flash is my favorite mechanic. I cannot even give suggestions on what to slot in because it'd just be tech choices based on meta. I love the ouphe because my meta loves artifacts. Would the new vivien from war be any good in this?

RNR_Gaming: Cradle is definitely one of the hardest acquires :/. Flash to me is arguably one of the best and funnest mechanics of the game, so I can see why Yisan would be difficult to pry away from. Collector Ouphe goes in an out of the deck, personally, he replaces Scavenging Ooze in most cases, but he's in the main list cause he's the only grave hate and the main decklist is built to combat almost any strategy going in blind.

Tha Flash Vivien is about as useful in this deck as Vedalken Orrery , it doesn't do anything when it hits and it's sorcery speed. The ability Yeva has over all of them is how you can leverage it without giving up a slot or a turn for her. Every card in the deck has one goal in mind, get to Infinite mana with an outlet while stopping/slowing everyone on the way to that goal. Since she's not Yisan, she's entirely reliant on the shell to power out wins and cards like that, unfortunately, don't add anything to the overall strategy.

I love it when an old card makes a return! custom categories are very nice too

l13199l: I was actually super happy about that. The categories are what led me back to Ulvenwald Tracker when I realized how Eternal Witness was necessary for every closing loop. Thanks for keeping up with changes!

Card advantage engine and Tymna blocker in one card, nice! Also, reason for Ouphe cut?

l13199l: Ouphe has yet to make it into the actually. I've play tested it a bit, but it's a bit harsh on my artifact combos

As for Ohran, it replaced Scavenging Ooze which has been lackluster.

Fair point on Ouphe, I usually have success bouncing him on the combo turn