Profet93: He's definitely not something I keep in my opener, unless I see a possible Seedborn or a line and I need an outlet for it, but he's absolutely integral and almost always necessary when winning. Basically what SynergyBuild.
October 9, 2021 8:23 p.m.
SynergyBuild says... #4
I'd put you in 4 digits but I'd be banned for botting accounts ;-;
January 7, 2022 2:34 p.m.
RNR_Gaming says... #5
With all the work you've put into this you deserve way more. Like, you have some serious dedication. Most people will make a list and abandon it after a rotation or 2. Yours is still up to date after all this time. Hopefully, by next year you'll break 1k. Have you thought about trying to get your list featured on some of the bigger YouTube channels? Like, I know a few have like a donate system and that's semi-detering but it would super extend your reach.
January 7, 2022 2:43 p.m.
SynergyBuild says... #6
RNR_Gaming Most cEDH builds often get updated in comparison to normal EDH builds, since there is general meta shifts or new cards that change the competitive scenes. However I do agree I am very glad this deck has had the work put into it that it did.
January 7, 2022 2:46 p.m.
SynergyBuild: No pls, we need you! You've been an invaluable part of this list.
RNR_Gaming: The biggest issue I found with Youtubers playing her, is the steep learning curve. It always makes for very grating gameplay, especially for Yeva pilots who know what to do at every given moment.
As for the updates, we got a huge one coming up so stay tuned!
January 7, 2022 2:57 p.m.
RNR_Gaming says... #8
Inkmoth - there was a pod caster that played my rakdos turbo fog list but was completely mismatched in power levels so he got turn 4ed :( so I understand.
I look forward to the update!
January 7, 2022 3:15 p.m. Edited.
For newcomers! Please note the primer is currently under constructions. Expect many MANY changes to get us up to date by end of the up coming weekend.
Here are some preliminary changes to tide you over until I can roll out the full update.
- Chalice of the Void
- Natural Order
- Lotus Petal
- Carpet of Flower
- Sakura-Tribe Scout
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Outland Liberator
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Return of the Wildspeaker
- Ram Through
- Elvish Visionary
- Sylvan Scrying
- Joraga Treespeaker
- Tireless Provisioner
Please note these changes aren't final until an official update is rolled out. Changes are going to be rolled out here and shortly thereafter on Moxfield. Also, look out for a Conquest version of the list, which is currently doing extraordinarily well.
January 17, 2022 5:10 p.m.
SynergyBuild says... #12
Inkmoth best of the cycle until the blue one is revealed to be a one mana counter on discard.
Plus giving this deck access to another loopable land destruction spell, even if not able to remove basics, is pretty great for going infinite. Not to mention getting two other permanent types that are regularly used to make mana.
January 28, 2022 7:20 p.m.
SynergyBuild says... #13
Inkmoth best of the cycle until the blue one is revealed to be a one mana counter on discard.
Plus giving this deck access to another loopable land destruction spell, even if not able to remove basics, is pretty great for going infinite. Not to mention getting two other permanent types that are regularly used to make mana.
January 28, 2022 8:55 p.m.
SynergyBuild: Well, the blue one came out and I think we got the better one, but reading your comment again reminded me of another cool interaction; looping this, or just using it in general with Root Maze out feels even better.
January 31, 2022 9:01 a.m.
SynergyBuild says... #15
Inkmoth While I wish I agreed, and do think ours is basically as good, all my oracle/dockside lists getting another easy to run recursive bounce effect to reuse my etbs is a bit much, especially when it's an untapped land, semi-decent removal, and protection.
For this deck I'd still rather be able to fill an interaction slot with a land than get a redundant one time use bounce, but both I'd run easily.
January 31, 2022 9:18 p.m.
Love the update. While I don't know much about cEDH, I concur with all of your reasoning. Well thought out.
February 7, 2022 2:01 p.m.
Profet93: Thank you for keeping up with the list all the years! Means the world to me. Also, please note that the discord has casual variants of this list if you really wish to play this list powered down.
February 7, 2022 2:21 p.m.
ItsMrRainbow says... #18
What a cool deck! Really impressed with the quality of the deck and the card choices of the cards. Never thougt that heartwood storyteller would be such a potent powerhouse in a all-creatures deck. Any tips for newer players that are getting into the deck for the first time?
February 17, 2022 11:40 a.m.
How is Karametra's Acolyte playing out? Do you find yourself reaching enough devotion to utilize it effectively? I know it's a recent change so you might not have enough info as of now. Same question with Concordant Crossroads. Has giving opponents haste ever backfired more than help, and if so, what proportion of your games has that occurred in?
February 17, 2022 2:21 p.m.
Profet93: So, Earthcraft is banned in Conquest, so I, on a whim slotted Concordant Crossroads in... and it is so fucking stupid. I cannot begin to describe just how dumb this card is. You generally slap this down with the dorks in hand and Yeva on board... allowing you to just pop off at instant speed. If we play it out without a line in mind, and just because you can, it'll definitely blow up in your face. I found that Winota, Joiner of Forces is the only one we really want to watch out for and the new Devoted Druid + Swift Reconfiguration combo when playing Concordant Crossroads. However, this was not an update I was ready to publicize, but I inadvertently deleted the whole update (plus changelog) and had to commit to posting the draft or nothing at all. I do believe the list should be on this, so I don't mind committing. J-Lo will be revisited most likely as well.
As for Karametra's Acolyte, the list has been wanting this card for the better part of a year... and across all the experienced pilots we all can collectively agree that Selvala, Heart of the Wilds has been absolute shit for quite some time. That pay one green was quite restrictive, the cantrip was almost always beat by an early Kraum, Ludevic's Opus or Serra Ascendant, while only getting 4 mana (really 3) most of the time was a really lame baseline. Selvala could only go off with Ashaya Rangers and Kogla Hyrax combos, whereas Acolyte can go off with all of those along with Temur Symbiote and Temur Hyrax lines. It just gives waaaayyy more mana on average while having a way bigger butt that's more likely to survive Jeska, Thrice Reborn.
February 17, 2022 3:09 p.m. Edited.
Sorry for cursing, but damn, Concordant Crossroads is so nutty. Dorks can go off with bouncers, Yisan/Fauna can tutor on drop, you don't have to wait till EOT for safe set up, you essentially have wins in hand... Like Ashaya Quirion with Concordant is GG... Like, your board could legit be Yeva, Concordant and 5 mana and you can go infinite whenever.
February 17, 2022 3:24 p.m.
Wait, you dropped selvala for Acolyte? And here I thought I finally had an updated list.
February 17, 2022 4:15 p.m.
Kamerot: Unfortunately yes, though the change wasn't meant to be publicized just yet, but I lost the whole update and changelog, so I committed to posting the draft or lose it all :/
But yeah Selvala has been horribad for a time now and we really scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to find justifications for it. Acolyte does everything we want it to do and more. Works in every line Selvala works in and way more.
February 17, 2022 4:28 p.m.
But for all intents and purposes, this is the official direction of the list until further testing proves otherwise.
SynergyBuild says... #1
Profet93 we almost never want to have it flipped. It's a card draw engine, infinite mana sink, and general mana outlet. That's the most important purpose.
October 9, 2021 7:13 p.m.