You Are a Dream; I Hope I Never Meet You
Standard*
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wizardjohn says... #2
How has testing gone vs the Naya, Abzan, and Jund walker decks?
October 10, 2014 10:07 a.m.
@wizardjohn : I haven't tested against any Naya decks yet, just haven't seen any good ones going around. Handles abzan and jund very well though. I haven't actually ran into anything that really gives this a problem yet.
October 10, 2014 11:56 a.m.
This is very similar to the BUG walkers deck I've been brewing -- BUG Superfriends. I've been a little skeptical of Jace and Lily, but Ashiok and Kiora are undisputed bombs. I've also gone a little heavier into the removal+creatures angle in lieu of your delve package.
October 10, 2014 12:12 p.m.
I interested to now your reasoning against Prognostic Sphinx. Evasion and hexproof seem to me like good qualities. Have you also dropped the Rakas?
October 11, 2014 9:39 p.m.
Wow. I am drunk, but still... the grammar in that sentence....
October 11, 2014 9:40 p.m.
godofcruelty says... #7
erm. . . no comment. just +1. And please check out my decks no one comments on mine.
October 11, 2014 9:43 p.m.
I tested with prog Sphinx before Clever Impersonator but it just wasn't as strong. And yes I removed the deathdealers (for now) so I can test with Thoughtseize but it's not a 100% permanent change yet
October 12, 2014 12:19 a.m.
majordeathtrout says... #9
I like the deck but one thing I would recommend is some more untapped lands. I used to run a play set of each temple in my deck and it just made it really slow most of the time. Playing sylvan and courser a turn later than everyone else is putting you in a big disadvantage.
October 12, 2014 7:23 p.m.
kevin105008 says... #10
I would recommend running 2 more Liliana Vess
, if you don't get the walkers that you need at the beginning, she can bring them out for you. Otherwise, I think this is great.
October 13, 2014 11:25 a.m.
I found a very interesting play in Rakshasa Deathdealer and Aqueous Form .
October 16, 2014 3:21 p.m.
wizardjohn says... #13
what have your playtesting results been against Jeskai Tempo, Abzan Midrange, and Temur midrange?
October 16, 2014 3:52 p.m.
Does really well against abzan and temur midrange. The jeskai tempo deck is slightly more difficult, but I can usually beat it out. Especially after sideboarding
October 16, 2014 5:44 p.m.
mpeach1 - i have been dying to play a Sultai color deck that wasn't garbage and i've gotta say You my friend are brilliant
i have seen dozens of deck lists for sultai and playtested many of them and even built a couple and non of them can compare to this. I normally do not rip off peoples decks so i hope you will find it flattering that i am choosing to do so for this deck.
i have often thought that Jace, the Living Guildpact was not getting proper respect and this deck proves it. Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver into jace OR kiora is VERY hard for opponents to deal with.
I playtested this in like 7 matches (best 2 of three) on untap.in and lost ONE GAME.
i played against rabble red, various Jeskai builds (like 3 different ones) a sultai control deck that i smoked and the fifth was that Ensoul Artifact and Scuttling Doom Engine which was my only loss, but i won overall 2-1. but the most surprising win was against an abzan midrange build and then an aggro in same colors. They just couldn't stop me once i had my (your) stuff moving. Stealing a Siege Rhino with ashiok is a really good feeling. and also Wingmate Roc for that matter and ulting Jace is amazing which is fairly easy to pull off thanks to Kiora shutting down threats and Ashiok stealing them. They are just so far behind at that point, that they just lose
Sorry to ramble on for so long but i wanted to express how extremely impressed i am with your deck building skills. Your name is very appropriate. people will hate playing against this deck for sure. I am building it asap and will let you know how it does at my LGS so you can have another set of feedback. +1 x a million if i could.
May you never be mana screwed
Bellock
October 16, 2014 8:18 p.m.
@ Bellock86 Seriously thank you for all of the kind words and praise. I do think this is a really solid deck that can answer everything, and it feels good to see people agreeing. I look forward to hearing how well it performs for you at the LGS.
October 16, 2014 9:01 p.m.
mpeach1 ~ just calling it how I see it bit you're welcome.
One question though. Why the one of Clever Impersonator ?
I get copying bombs and all that but wouldn't it be better to run another jace maybe?
October 16, 2014 9:24 p.m.
Is just an amazing card. It feels great to play Garruk for 4cmc
October 17, 2014 2:40 a.m.
Hey, Im very interested in the list you have put together. Seems really good against most arch types but while playtesting it seemed to have a really hard time against Jeskai aggro and Jeskai Tempo. If they start throwing burn at your face it didnt seem like you could end the game before they just burned you out.
Prehaps i didnt sideboard correctly or something but that was the resultes of that matchup. Against everything else it did wonderfully.
October 19, 2014 2:37 p.m.
@ simoHayha the trick against the jeskai is Bile Blight and Courser of Kruphix as long as you're hitting every land with courser and taking care of their little guys, there's not much they can do. But that has been the hardest match whilst playtesting
October 19, 2014 5:01 p.m.
I agree with gro0ve on using The Chain Veil . It just seems like a no-brainer in a superfriends deck, especially when you can tutor it out with Liliana Vess . Do you have a good reason not to run it?
October 20, 2014 7:55 p.m.
I just don't like the fact that it costs 4 and then 4 more every time you use it, making it essentially only super effective late game, if I'm still trying to play other things. And the fact that if I'm playing against an opponent with enough removal to keep my walkers off the board, I'm stuck taking 2 life.
That being said, I don't though, people keep on telling me to try it out, so I think I may go ahead and give it a chance as a 1 of for a bit
October 20, 2014 8:40 p.m.
kevin105008 says... #23
Have you considered running Waste Not , it has great synergy with Liliana Vess .
October 21, 2014 7:07 a.m.
Nah just isn't that great here. I'm only running 1 Lili and I'm usually just tutoring with her
October 21, 2014 8:50 a.m.
why i agree ashiok and kiora are great i consider playsets of walkers to much. i would drop 1 of both and add something like Bile Blight or Dissolve etc.
Clever Impersonator seems off. atleast to me. what is ther in your deck you would want to copy?Walkers for a double trigger? witch ashiok it seems a waste to do so. rather Villainous Wealth instead. kiora? double stun? in this case you losing draw-stun? you traded 4mana to draw only 1 card.While lili and jace have there use for a double trigger they seem like winmore in this case.If you want to copy something of your opponent i cant realy think of something worth the effort thay you cant just kill instead
While i did mention Villainous Wealth above i dont think its that great a card. it has its use but when you(like me) only have 20mana(24-4search) you(or just me) cant get the high amount needed to kill. In the case of 2ndeffect you practically need atleast 8+mana to be capable of making it worth the effort of casting.(if it only had Delve).
slimeW1Z says... #1
Looks great. Can you take a look at my deck and critique please?
October 10, 2014 5:31 a.m.