Lastly, I'd consider Experiment One and/or Soldier of the Pantheon . Aggro decks like their powerful one-drops, and selesnya is no exception -- especially since it is home to what is likely the best 2 1-drops in the format right now. Think on that.
January 8, 2014 3:20 a.m.
That's exactly my reason. unless you want to sell one for 10 bucks
January 15, 2014 5:09 p.m.
I had commented previously to your last update. I'll repost for ya:
"I agree with a lot of what Grabnar has suggested. The only thing I want to comment on is that Sylvan Caryatid actually does very little in the grand scheme of things. against control, you dont want to unload all your dorks just to get 5 damage in on T3 right into a Supreme Verdict . Elvish Mystic is pretty good for getting a T2 Loxodon Smiter out or even a T2 Boon Satyr . Have you thought of those?
I'd go with Gods Willing over Holy Mantle it's cheaper, it still give (a much wider) form of protection, let's you scry, and still let's you ignore blockers for a victory.
-2 Grove of the Guardian . That is, unless you aren't planning on playing competitively. Grove is a cool and fun card and I've used it in the past, but colorless mana is practically useless to you. A T5-6 8/8 that requires you to tap your creatures that can easily be Cyclonic Rift , Hero's Downfall , Far / Away , Doom Blade , Celestial Flare , etc'd is so far from what you want in an aggro deck it's not even funny. Don't mean to come off harsh. Just want to be clear.
And that brings me to Wayfaring Temple . People go back and forth with this one, but the biggest problem I see is the no Voice of Resurgence thing. Without it, Wayfaring Temple doesn't get NEARLY as much value, since you have much less to populate form, and since those tokens you make aren't as powerful (save maybe for the 5/5 wurms). I would take him out, but I know you like him so I'll keep that in mind.
Centaur's Herald is also just too slow. I'd remove it.
I'd place the Trostani, Selesnya's Voice in the sideboard, personally. It really only shines against other aggro. MBD, MUD, control, and other's can easily get rid of her the turn you play her, with as little as a Dimir Charm or Last Breath . However, in aggro, she gains life and is a source of more threats mid game.
Lastly, I'd consider Experiment One and/or Soldier of the Pantheon . Aggro decks like their powerful one-drops, and selesnya is no exception -- especially since it is home to what is likely the best 2 1-drops in the format right now. Think on that."
January 19, 2014 2:17 p.m.
These are my opinions on those cards:
Boon Satyr : nice card. I want to put him in or side board him but in my deck he has some problems. It's mostly useless with blocking and unless attacked to a creature with trample, it's not going to bee good for attacking do to it's low defense. Nice card all in all.
Gods Willing : not quite what you wanted me to do but most of the people at my FNM don't play Supreme Verdict . I will put it in if I go to the open series but for now with the many midrange, non-removal decks here, Holy Mantle saves my butt.
Grove of the Guardian : not enough remove at my FNM to worry, will take out if necessary.
Wayfaring Temple : So do to every on at my FNM playing agro decks to the extreme, playing a 5/5 Wayfaring Temple turn3 turns the playing field in my direction, even next turn I put on an Unflinching Courage
One drops:
Experiment One : Great card have paly with it and against it but I'm not a give fan. I tell people this a lot and they go: WHAT!!! it seems good but using it' I'm not a supporter.
Lastly Soldier of the Pantheon : Never liked it. it only seems good as a chump blocker and using it for life doesn't compare to what I get from either my Unflinching Courage or my Trostani, Selesnya's Voice .
over all, looking at this, I've come to a conclusion that my FNM has greatly influenced my deck in what cards are in it now. but I thank you Spootyone for the advice incase it changes
January 19, 2014 4:08 p.m.
I can see how this wins reliably if people I your meta aren't running control with SupremeV.
January 24, 2014 10:36 a.m.
NerdPounder says... #8
So... Voice of Resurgence is a lot better than Vitu-Ghazi Guildmage . Have you thought about making that switch?
Oh, and I like Wayfaring Temple with Advent of the Wurm , "Oh no blocks? Advent. Populate. Go." lol
January 27, 2014 2:13 p.m.
I sure have! it's just...I like the fact of not paying $30 bucks for a card that is going to cycle out. of course you can understand. plus, do to my high mana gain, the activated populate is an amazing asset.
January 28, 2014 1:21 p.m.
Have u considered Ajani, Caller of the Pride , very nice game ender and overall pretty strong card for only 3 Mana. Polukranos, World Eater is also a pretty solid card if they have creatures with pro-white like Stormbreath Dragon or Blood Baron of Vizkopa , its monstrous can also remove weenies like Master of Waves and help u scale better into the late game. Overall I really like this deck +1 :)
January 31, 2014 8:30 p.m.
I have wanted to fit Ajani, Caller of the Pride in this deck so badly but i would like suggestions if you have an idea. For Polukranos, World Eater , I'm a little hesitant. It's good for a devotion pump deck but i fear that my deck can't produce enough mana to use it to is big glory. if anything, i can side board 2 and swap it out for something.
February 4, 2014 12:58 p.m.
I would suggest taking out 2x Vitu-Ghazi Guildmage for 2x Ajani, Caller of the Pride . You already have a lot of populate mechanics in your deck that are also a lot cheaper in mana cost, the 6 mana for a 3/3 token just doesnt seem worth it either becuz it's 6 mana, ur only running 23 lands and u have no ramp in ur deck so even getting there could prove to be a difficult task, and when u do there should be better things to spend ur mana on like Grove of the Guardian , Trostani, Selesnya's Voice , flashing in an Advent of the Wurm etc...
February 4, 2014 10:19 p.m.
IonImplant says... #14
What about Nylea, God of the Hunt to give everyone trample
February 20, 2014 4:06 p.m.
I would like to follow that with the question....what was your opinion I should take out for it?
February 21, 2014 6:43 p.m.
MakoLifeStream says... #16
1 Loxodon Smiter is what i would get rid of for it. just 1 for 1. its not a bad idea.
March 2, 2014 4:09 p.m.
squarelles says... #17
Spitting Image ? copy Wayfaring Temple , then populate it?
July 22, 2014 3:09 p.m.
why when Voice of resurgence kind of dose it for me? this is an agro populate. a 6 cast card is WAY to much. but I like that you suggested it.
July 22, 2014 8:05 p.m.
How about Growing Ranks and Parallel Lives ?
I like the idea behind this deck. Bit different take on selesnya tokens than my No mr. Bond, I expect you to populate has, yet effective and fun for sure :)
July 23, 2014 7:52 a.m.
jerrific thank for the advice. as soon as you said that I made another changer. instead of Temple of Plenty or Selesnya Guildgate , why not Sunpetal Grove !
July 31, 2014 10:16 a.m.
Hemi-pwr... god's willing doesn't protect from supreme verdict anyways. It protects from a colored spell that targets your creature specifically or from the color of creature you are blocking, or allows you to choose the color that all or most of the opponents creatures are and then they can't block. God's willing... Very cheap and scry as well but it is one time.
August 6, 2014 8 a.m.
I would try something that puts out multiple tokens though. Quantity quantity is big when you have way faring in your deck.
August 6, 2014 8:03 a.m.
that's why it's in the sideboard. I know how Gods Willing works. do you have any suggestions for any quantity token cards?
Spootyone says... #1
I agree with a lot of what Grabnar has suggested. The only thing I want to comment on is that Sylvan Caryatid actually does very little in the grand scheme of things. against control, you dont want to unload all your dorks just to get 5 damage in on T3 right into a Supreme Verdict . Elvish Mystic is pretty good for getting a T2 Loxodon Smiter out or even a T2 Boon Satyr . Have you thought of those?
I'd go with Gods Willing over Holy Mantle it's cheaper, it still give (a much wider) form of protection, let's you scry, and still let's you ignore blockers for a victory.
-2 Grove of the Guardian . That is, unless you aren't planning on playing competitively. Grove is a cool and fun card and I've used it in the past, but colorless mana is practically useless to you. A T5-6 8/8 that requires you to tap your creatures that can easily be Cyclonic Rift , Hero's Downfall , Far / Away , Doom Blade , Celestial Flare , etc'd is so far from what you want in an aggro deck it's not even funny. Don't mean to come off harsh. Just want to be clear.
And that brings me to Wayfaring Temple . People go back and forth with this one, but the biggest problem I see is the no Voice of Resurgence thing. Without it, Wayfaring Temple doesn't get NEARLY as much value, since you have much less to populate form, and since those tokens you make aren't as powerful (save maybe for the 5/5 wurms). I would take him out, but I know you like him so I'll keep that in mind.
Centaur's Herald is also just too slow. I'd remove it.
I'd place the Trostani, Selesnya's Voice in the sideboard, personally. It really only shines against other aggro. MBD, MUD, control, and other's can easily get rid of her the turn you play her, with as little as a Dimir Charm or Last Breath . However, in aggro, she gains life and is a source of more threats mid game.
January 8, 2014 3:20 a.m.